carmaenforcer

Well Chris H., I've also always wonder if any partners give the other the "green light" in these types of situations.my wife's response was what you would have expected, a big "HELL NO!"
I of coarse plead my case without arguing with;
If I do, I won't bug you anymore! We can go without sex for as long as you'd like! Just because you don't have a sex drive don't expect me not to!
That kind of thing.
Amazingly she did agree with the logic of most of my points, she don't do logic well, and so I end up where I started.

fredfoxw28,
You said it your self, "This marriage is not only about you and your needs.", yet women want us to wait until they are ready without thinking about our needs.
You also mentioned, "Lets say you go out and get it somewhere else, you maybe sexually satisfied but believe me when I say you will find something wrong with that person."
I should have explained better, but if I went somewhere else for "sex" I would go to a professional and so would almost be pretty much guaranteed satisfaction. I'm not looking for a better wife or even a woman that truly cares about my needs, just sex.

I don't know if your husband is at this point yet, but trust me your sex is no different or more special that anyone other and if you make your man work too hard for it, he will quickly realize that it just ain't worth it and will eventually go somewhere else or just leave. You best realize that you shouldn't make it so hard to get your sex before your husband just stops asking someday.

jeanette, I feel you sister. You did your part by trying to talk it out, if that didn't work you go ahead and take care of your needs since he don't care. Simple as that, and if they don't like it then maybe they should do their jobs, right? Because, I'm sorry but yeah it it the spouses job to satisfy the others reasonable sexual needs.

Green-Moo,
Please know that I am normally a very caring and understanding man, I am all about fairness also, she has simply exhausted my patience. For example, she just got into a bad car accident on Monday, that's why it took me till today to reply, I've been taking care of her. I've told her before, if for some medical reason she can't have sex with me I will wait forever and be faithful, but I will not put up with games or having to jump through hoops for no reason other than a her issues.