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Old 02-02-2010, 01:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Well, assuming she's smaller than him and he can physically block her from leaving - and continue to hit her, she should move out.
Well I really don't think size has anything to do with it. Abuse is abuse and it's wrong. It makes no difference if it's a man or a woman doing the abusing.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Of course it's wrong. But a 5 ft tall woman can't stop a 6 ft tall man from leaving the house, if he wants to. And if that woman is hitting him, his smartest choice is to leave the room so nothing else happens.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Of course it's wrong. But a 5 ft tall woman can't stop a 6 ft tall man from leaving the house, if he wants to. And if that woman is hitting him, his smartest choice is to leave the room so nothing else happens.
I will just politely agree to disagree on this...
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:38 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Of course it's wrong. But a 5 ft tall woman can't stop a 6 ft tall man from leaving the house, if he wants to. And if that woman is hitting him, his smartest choice is to leave the room so nothing else happens.
I wholeheartedly disagree! It's not about the size of the abuser or abusee. Abuse is Abuse...Period!
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Old 02-02-2010, 03:13 PM   #20 (permalink)
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If a woman doesn't want to get hit, and she tries to get away from the guy, he can pin her down and keep hitting. She HAS no choice.

If a man doesn't want to get hit, he can simply turn around and leave the room, if he's sufficiently larger and stronger than her. What's she going to do...grab his legs and hang on as he walks out the door?

A man can psychologically choose to accept abuse from a woman, just like a woman can, but physically he typically has the option to escape.

I am in no way debating that abuse is not wrong. Merely that a larger human can choose not to stand there while a smaller human beats on him.

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Old 02-02-2010, 03:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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What is your goal? Are you done with the relationship or are you hoping that moving out gives her a wake up call?

One way or another, you are going to have to confront her. If you didn't care about your 'stuff', you could just disappear for a week or two by staying with family or friends.

But, it is highly unlikely that you and all your belongings can just disappear without her knowledge, or having a discussion.
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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If a woman doesn't want to get hit, and she tries to get away from the guy, he can pin her down and keep hitting. She HAS no choice.

If a man doesn't want to get hit, he can simply turn around and leave the room, if he's sufficiently larger and stronger than her. What's she going to do...grab his legs and hang on as he walks out the door?

A man can psychologically choose to accept abuse from a woman, just like a woman can, but physically he typically has the option to escape.

I am in no way debating that abuse is not wrong. Merely that a larger human can choose not to stand there while a smaller human beats on him.

A knee to the groin will stop any man dead in their tracks... Just sayin...
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:24 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Tell that to the millions of women too terrified to try.

Anyway, that's not what abuse is all about. It's incremental. It's a put down, then a rejection, then a refusal to allow something, then a shout, then a push...so that by the time the hit comes, she's too unsure of herself to consider a knee to the groin.

I do feel bad for men who become abused, because I think it must be even more humiliating and confusing for them. They get to that point because they don't want to harm or stand up to a woman...nice qualities, but it gets turned against them.
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:25 PM   #24 (permalink)
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If I leave the room while she is in one of her moods she will probably break and throw all my stuff. Is it worth the risk? I can try and leave the room but what if what I said happens what to do then. Say" it is ok hunny" that you trashed my desk, broke my computer, and ripped up important business client information.

OK what about my issue with have a strong desire to cheat on her... what to do about that? I mean she really disapoints me when she gets upset the way she does and hits me and comes after me with a very large kitchen knife like she is ready to kill me.. These are the things that make me want to cheat on her.
I think you should not try and work this marriage out. I think your desire to cheat on your wife is that it gives you an avenue to hurt her as much as you have been hurt. It also gives you some intimacy that hasn't been there.

I really think you should leave and get a divorce and find someone who treats you how you deserve to be treated. Best of luck...
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:33 PM   #25 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=turnera;124498]Tell that to the millions of women too terrified to try.
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This thread is about an abused man. Lets just keep it at that...

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Old 02-08-2010, 09:33 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I agree with DawnD, it sounds like your wife needs some help with her anger and abuse (both the mental and physical abuse). I am no expert but I have been in the whole physically abusive relationship before, and I know someone who used to work for a crisis line for abuse and the only way someone is really going to stop doing these things is to get some professional help. I would definitely get out of this situation and tell her that she needs to get some sort of help for this before you'll come back (if you want to go back that is). Good luck!
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:18 AM   #27 (permalink)
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... hitting me ...
Sneak out. Once she hit you, she gave up her right to be informed of anything. Take all your property, take all your money, take all of her money also, rent an apartment and have an attorney contact her.

Violent people have no right to anything. If you sit down and try to "work out" your separation, she might stick a steak knife into your chest, or dial 911 and falsely accuse you of almost anything. As a male, the law will not defend you. Your only recourse is to vanish, leave no forwarding address or contact number, and have her talk to you via your attorney. Once the divorce details are worked out, she can get her half of the money back.

You have no other alternative. She is a deranged dangerous criminal, and you must leave immediately.

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If a woman doesn't want to get hit, and she tries to get away from the guy, he can pin her down and keep hitting. She HAS no choice.

If a man doesn't want to get hit, he can simply turn around and leave the room, if he's sufficiently larger and stronger than her. What's she going to do...grab his legs and hang on as he walks out the door?

A man can psychologically choose to accept abuse from a woman, just like a woman can, but physically he typically has the option to escape.

I am in no way debating that abuse is not wrong. Merely that a larger human can choose not to stand there while a smaller human beats on him.
Turnera, you have no idea what you are talking about.

A woman has far more power to be violet with a man than a man has to be violent with a woman. A woman can ambush her husband, smash his head with a frying pan, then calmly dial 911 and have him arrested for domestic violence. In all 50 states, the man is the presumed aggressor and will automatically be taken to jail. There are no shelters that will accept male victims, and no programs, money, or services that will cater to a male victim. There is virtually no one who will even acknowledge that there is such a thing as a male victim of domestic violence. But there are.

I was in an physically abusive relationship and the only way I was able to escape was to secretly record my ex attempting to terrify me with all the ways in which she could physically assault me and then turn the legal table and have me charged and imprisoned for that same assault. Armed with this tape, I made my escape. She sued me in civil court for money and possessions, but I did not care because I was free.

Had she suspected or found my recording equipment, there would have been no escape for me. She was very detailed and precise when she described her plans to destroy my life if I ever left her.

The only thing that prevents a woman from gaming the system is the integrity of that woman. Most women have integrity and would not use the law in the ways that I have described. But many possessive women do use the law, and many abused men end up in prison or in the cemetery as a result of daring to plan an escape.

Your ignorance of this is as common as it is shocking.

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