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Old 03-31-2012, 07:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

New member here, and at this point, I'll take any help offered, or a blueprint on how to get the hell-out.

I have known/dated my wife for a lil less than 10 years and been married a little over four. We have a three year old daughter who is God's gift to us both. I'm sure this sounds like quite the perfect picture. It is anything but.

My family has never really liked my wife, and they always found her snooty and "high-maintenance". They are right. They tolerated her and accepted her, even though she is pretty much a ***** to them every chance she gets (and rags about me and my family to her sisters on the phone every day).

Long story short, my wife has absolutely no respect for me. She talks down to me in a very angry voice, yells out commands if/when she wants something done. Whenever I offer help of any kind, she makes very rude/condescending/sarcastic remarks like "if I wanted help, I'd ask!" or "no thank you, you will do it like the slob you are" (Dishes, for instance).

Whenever I try to tell her "I don't appreciate how you talk to me" she respond with "I'm a b-tch, deal with it" even though she talks to nobody else like this.

She is very mean to me and to call this verbal/physical abuse would be a far understatement. She has been doing this for at least 3-4 years, and now it is at its worst point ever. I do everything I can for my wife. I work 50 hours a week and have a great job with great income, I spend every other minute of my life in further education to better my family life for them or with her and our daughter at a park or something.

She constantly calls me abusive names like “fat ugly pig” or “worthless selfish a—hole” even though I give every penny and minute of my life to this family.

Since the day our baby was born, I have done at least 70% of the diaper duty and more than 90% of the nightly bathing etc. My wife does all the cooking/cleaning, I'm not even allowed in the kitchen, or it's a fight!

I have never been to a strip club, nor would you ever find me in one. I'm 28 years old, in great physical shape. I don't play any video games and I am the last thing from somebody you would call "lazy".

Also, she has got to be the most OCD person I have ever met. If a towel isn't folded exactly perfect, or if there is one cookie crumb on the carpet she blows up and makes very rude and condescending comments like "THIS is what happens when you marry a three old. This is what happens when are married to a fat, gross slob” (I'm clean and in the best shape of my life )

The other major complain and the number 1 broken part of our marriage is her complete unwilling attitude to talk to me (productively). She won’t talk to me about good days/bad days/happy days/anything. I try to talk to her when I'm happy, when I'm sad and everything in between. She won’t give me 30 seconds of her time. Whenever I try to talk to her about "problems" I perceive (like the ship wreck marriage we have) she mocks me like a grade-school bully and says a pretend-whinny-voice "ohhh poor baby, let me mother you like the baby you are..." or "Don't counsel me, this is my time to [read/watch tv/browse laptop...etc etc etc]". There is always an excuse. She will not talk to me.

It doesn't take rocket scientist for anybody to realize that this woman has not a care in the world for me, and I'm sure everybody reading this is telling me to RUN from this marriage. Well, I'm begging somebody to help me figure out how.

Initially, when people meet her, (friends, mom etc) they never believed me when I told them about how she treats me. Then I forward actual emails/texts and they realize and see it for themselves. Couple of months ago, I was on the phone with my mom, and my wife went off bananas about something little like always, and my mom heard it over the phone and couldn't believe 1) that my wife talks to me like that 2) how coy I was in terms of how deaf I was to it because its normal everyday behavior. It was then my mom truly realized and told me to RUN.

This woman's complete lack of respect for me is so bad, that I have to constantly correct my three year old daughter when she too starts treating me the same. The problem is, I simply do not know how to leave this woman for a few reasons, of which I will admit 10000000% and have no shame. Here they are:
1) I want the world to know 100% that this marriage failure is not because of me (i never cheated/never have/never will)
2) I do not want her to spoil my daughters brain throughout life saying stuff like "daddy abandoned us" etc etc etc.
3) I am afraid of being alone. If i said anything else, I'd be lying through my teeth. There. I admit it and not ashamed.
4) I have no clue how to leave, when this woman is financially dependent on me. I am not going to "throw her out"

I do want to point out a few things: I have never been physically/emotionally/verbally abusive to my wife, she acknowledges this. I have never ever called her the childish names that she constantly attacks me with. I have ONE woman's phone number in my phone, and she happens to be a lesbo friend of mine from work. Otherwise, I'm the most faithful man alive.

This friend of mine at work tells me all the time how she thinks I am one of the greatest guys she knows, and cannot believe the treatment I get from my wife.

My wife's sister is married to a true definition of garbage. Her husband does not work, and has no intentions on doing so. He does not even lift a finger to help raise their two kids. I constantly remind my wife about her sister's marriage whenever she goes off on me. All she responds with in a snide way is "if I wanted someone like him, I'd marry someone like him".

A couple of years ago, I took us to a neutral counselor and after one session, the counselor basically had to correct my wife on the spot because of the audacity my wife admitted how she talks to me. Since then, my wife won’t even think about going to a counselor, even of her picking.

So, I am done for now, otherwise I could ramble on for days about how abused I am.

At this point, I am not treated even remotely close to anything that I would consider acceptable to myself, and even if my wife changed a hundred things, she would still be "too horrible" to/for me. I just want out. She won’t even sit for 30 seconds and hear me out about me asking for a divorce. She won’t.

What do I do?

Please help.
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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First, you tell her that you're tired of her crap and will not tolerate it any longer.
Then you file for divorce and seek full custody of your child.
Then you tell her that if she verbally abuses you again, you're going to call the cops for DV.

You are a doormat and she thinks that she is entitled to treat people like crap.
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First, you tell her that you're tired of her crap and will not tolerate it any longer....
If I even opened my mouth to say this, she would interrupt me half way through it and say "good, you know where the door is"

That is what I would get.
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"good, you know where the door is"
use it
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Just leave her like that? high and dry?

She wont financially survive without me. She makes enough, but manages it very poorly.

I am so stressed out, I look/feel like I'm 40+.
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Just leave her like that? high and dry?

She wont financially survive without me. She makes enough, but manages it very poorly.

I am so stressed out, I look/feel like I'm 40+.
That would be her problem, stop caring about someone who treats you like ****. Start worrying more about yourself and your child.

+1 as DanF said. RUN.
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just leave her like that? High and dry?
just. Like. That.
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She wont financially survive without me. She makes enough, but manages it very poorly.
thats her problem
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Just leave her like that? high and dry?

She wont financially survive without me. She makes enough, but manages it very poorly.

I am so stressed out, I look/feel like I'm 40+.

I agree. Stand up to hear, leave for a hotel for a few days where she cannot find you. She cannot treat you like this.

You treat people how to treat you, you had indicated she is not a b**ch with other people, just you. Why do you think that is? because you put up with it.

Believe me when I say this, I have had an imbalance and put my husband through a lot, not as bad as this, but he stood up to me and it made all the difference for me to recognize how off I was behaving. It saved us and make us closer than ever.

When she is telling you know where the door is, take her up on her bluff.

There is something to be said for being "to perfect". As much as women claim that is what they want its not usually true. Freaking out about a towel or crumbs on the floor is a total power move on her part, pull your strings and see if you will jump. Stop jumping and trying to be to perfect, it puts you in a submissive role to her that is not attractive.
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If I even opened my mouth to say this, she would interrupt me half way through it and say "good, you know where the door is"

That is what I would get.
So you would rather be her whipping boy without taking any action?You said your young daughter is already mimicking her behavior.That's not only because your wife does it but because she sees you condone it without negative consequences.

Your wife seems to be a self-centered bully who needs to be rocked back on her toes.Divorce papers,in black and white,would be a good start.jmo
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The worst thing you could do is "leave for a hotel for a few days" because she can then claim you abandoned the home/ were sleeping with hookers/ etc. The first thing you should do is consult a highly recommended family law attorney without her knowledge and ask him or her what to do next. Save anything abusive she puts in writing (texts etc).
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I'm sorry-you married someone with a serious personality disorder or other mental illness.

Don't leave--just file the papers for a divorce/legal separation. Let a lawyer handle all her b.s. that will come when she realizes you have finally stood up to her.

I'd encourage you to record (secretly, if permissible in your state) some of the interactions so you can protect yourself agains any crazy accusations she comes up with. Do that before you file, and be sure to have the recorder running when she is served or first sees you after she is served. I bet you will get a tapeful then.

I think it is really important to have a record of her verbal abuse for custody matters. Courts will usually prefer to give 50/50 custody, but if she is going to turn your child against you, they may consider giving you full custody.

It's awful for your daughter to have to hear mommy running down daddy, but it will also be traumatic for her to have to lose mommy (I assume you'd push for supervised visits b/c otherwise, your w could continue poisoning your daughter or cause other emotional damage). Get your daughter into counseling and keep her there for a few years; she will need it. She can come out of this ok, but she will experience the transition away from her mother as abandonment. Not much can be done about that, and it is wrong to think that a child will be ok b/c they are with the other parent. It doesn't happen like that, unfortunately. The point is to be proactive about her experience of the dramatic change in her life.

Be careful--a woman like this will likely use everything and anything against you.

When you file, you can (in some states) have a preliminary order dictating custody and finances. The two are connected b/c the parent who earns more usually has to pay something toward child support even in 50/50 cases to make sure the child's standard of living doesn't change too dramatically while living with the lower-earning parent. If you are granted full custody and placement, your w will owe you money for child support, although the court may grant her $$ for spousal support. The state does not want either her or the child becomeing a burden on tax payers. And remember that spousal support is usually limited to a few years except in longer term marriages where one partner has been a SAH parent and can never catch up career-wise because of the long absence from the work place. Doesn't sound like you will have to pay too much unless there is a dramatic difference in how much each of you earns. But it will be worth every penny NOT to be living with her.

Good luck; let us know how it goes.
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Get a Voice Activated Recorder and tape all the verbal abuse she dishes. Might come very handy in divorce proceedings.

Like others have said, you really need to man up and leave her. If you went into marriage expecting to be abused for the rest of your life then go ahead stay, but think of the example you're setting for your daughter if she ever ended up with a male equivalent of your wife. You don't need to have a talk about it, just have her served. That should be a sobering jolt of reality.
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This is all very real, awakening feedback. It hurts to hear, but it is exactly what I wanted to hear.

The worst part of all of this is, I haven't even scratched the surface of the tip of the iceberg in terms of "other stuff that has happened."

This is been going on so long, and I'm such an idiot for letting it string out this long. A couple of months ago I ran into an old friend I haven't seen in over 5 years, and she told me "I'm so sorry about everything she put you through .... you went through a lot" - My friend said this recently, but referencing the time she knew me five years ago, NOT EVEN ANYTHING RECENT.

Let me ask this..... How do I handle those troughs when I feel really low/sorry/sad for myself (that is, after i leave her)?

Because she sniffs that kind of stuff out and plays on my weakness like "she can't live without met.." etc...

I appreciate the help, feel like I owe a co-pay...
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She is going to keep verbally punching you until you stand up for yourself and make her respect you.
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