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Old 08-04-2012, 04:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello All,

You can call me D, I’m 30, fiancé is 39. Let me start by saying I enjoy the forums and a lot of you all seem to have great advice. I met with my DB coach for the first time this week and she was great. First, I'm going to give you some background on my situation. I've been with my fiance for 7 years. We met online and I left everything to come to be with her, 800 miles away. Things were great at first, my fiance was on the table to have gastric bypass surgery and we found out she was pregnant. We have a beautiful 6 year old daughter now. She is wonderful and the light of my life. We've had lots of problems throughout our tenure together. Lies, deception, disrespect and the list goes on. I've also been working lots of hours, and by lots of hours I mean 70+ hours a week, I'm a software engineer and the job requires it. Most of the problems were initiated by me. I'm not good at relationships and realize I'm probably the reason for everything that's happening now. I didn’t give her any attention whatsoever.

Flash back two weeks ago. I thought things were going well, she had stopped nagging me so much. We were having sex regularly and the sex was fantastic. She had started going tanning, mind you she has lost 140 lbs after her bypass surgery and I've always thought she was sexy, I've never said a word to her about her weight even when she was 140 lbs heavier. I tell her she's beautiful all the time. She also went and got her nose pierced and was quite proud to show her pictures on FB. Then one night, she said I'm going out, wouldn't tell me where she was going. Curiousity got the best of me and I checked her phone records because her cell phone is on my plan. She had been calling a strange number every night when she left to go tanning. This number was in TX, I also noticed the usage on her cell phone was absolutely crazy. She had went from averaging 100 texts a month to well over 5000 for the current month. I was full or rage, angry and confronted her then told her to get the "f" out. We talked later that night and she assured me, he was a friend that she had always kept in contact with. We figured things out for the night and I told her I was ok with it. Fast forward a few days, curiousity strikes again. I check her Email account, that I acquired with a keylogger on the computer. They had been having chats all day at work. With references to sexual dreams about one another, hugs, squeezes, I've missed you so much, you make me smile stuff. I confronted her that afternoon. She's furious and says I illegally accessed her account. I'm reading too much into it. I break down again and accept her explanation and let things go for a few days. She says she needs to work on our relationship just as much as I do. Ok, we agree about something. She changes her email password the next day. She puts a pw on her phone. Says she will not stop talking to friends just because I want her too. Had the nerve to tell me that she talked to him, and determined that she wasn't going to complicate things with him; (this time) they have history, they would just stay friends forever and keep in contact.

We went down to her Dad's house the next day, who I adore. We have a very good relationship. The whole time we were at her Dad's house she was texting this guy. I mean nonstop for 6 hours. I break down crying in the bed that night, she says she can't take this, I'm like a yoyo. One minute I'm ok, the next I'm freaking out. This is true, I've never felt these emotions before. I didn't know how to react. I apologize again, things go okay for a few days. I'm still checking her records and she's contacting him regularly and texting him hundreds of times a day. She came home from work Tuesday night and I blow up. I said, it's either stop talking to this "friend" and work on us or get her stuff and get out. My neighbor is a police officer, so I let her know I was going next door to talk to her. My neighbor says I would have to get her evicted. My name is the only one on the house, she says that we are common law married and I would have to evict her. Okay, not the answer I wanted. I come back to the house, I say, I will not enable you to talk to this home-wrecker, (she says we had issues and he is nothing to do with it) I'm disconnecting your cell phone and you need to leave as soon as possible. I pick up my phone and call our cell provider to disconnect her line. She loses it, freaks out, calls 911. I had 4 cops at my house asking me questions. I tell them what's going on, they speak to her, speak to me and determine no crime was committed. They tell me to hang in there. She tells the police, I'm acting irrational and that she's afraid to be alone with me without a phone. The house phone was not going to be disconnected. She could have used that. We argue back and forth even after the police leave. She mentions that I'm the only one crazy enough to stay with her for 7 years, I'm the longest relationship she's ever had.

She told me the following day she talked to her Dad, told him what’s going on. “He said we really like him, a lot. (referring to me) If you need money or a new phone, or need anything call me. “ She told me how, there was nothing going on with this friend and that he lives a different lifestyle which she would not have our daughter around. Ok, thanks for the info. I tell her, she can talk to him if she wants, the way I’ve treated her for the past several years, she has a right to do whatever she wants. I’m attempting my 180. Which is reacting to her talking to this fool, to no reaction at all.

I take calls and texts from her the next day that are mostly freak outs and rude comments. I'm trying now after talking with my DB coach, to stop checking on her all the time. Hard commitment, I check here and there, but I’ve been great about not checking since Thursday. I don’t want to know, it hurts too much. Thursday evening, my daughter had a popsicle social at her school to meet her new 1st grade teacher. My fiancé goes but rides in a separate vehicle. She’s texting this guy at the freaking school, she says are you watching her? I’m going to go. I said ok, see you later. She goes tanning to talk to her friend. I haven’t checked records to make sure as I’m trying to stop that. When we get home, she’s waiting here, she stopped at the store and got me one of my favorite rootbeers. Why???? I stay cheery and she sits on the couch and pouts then finally retreats to the bedroom and locks the door. She would not respond to my daughter when she knocked and asked her questions. Which really p’d me off. Finally talked to her later that night, she closed our joint checking, gave me 200 to open my own checking account. I slept on the couch, the next morning, she wanted her money back. I gave it to her. Who is the yo-yo now?

Yesterday before work, she asks me to put lotion on her back, I do. She suggests that my daughter go to her Grandmother’s for the weekend, this weekend so we can talk. I agree, reluctantly. My wife is a paralegal and ultimately, thinks she has me trumped on everything. So I’m worried about seeing my daughter again and her being removed from the family home, since she’s at my fiance’s parents house (not her Dad that I like). I’m still paranoid and hope she comes home tomorrow. Last night, I sat there and rubbed her feet through all the rude and evil comments. I tried to take her to dinner, she didn’t feel like going. The whole time I was rubbing her feet, she was texting him. She takes her phone wherever she goes, including the bathroom, places it face down on her chest, when she’s laying down, face down on the table when she puts it down. She’s like a crack addict. She also tells me she’s thinking of getting a tattoo, mind you, I’ve heard for the past 7 years how disgusting they are. The OM just got a new tattoo I saw on FB. Piercings, tattoos? Who is this woman? Anyway, she’s talking about leaving again, says she’s getting a new car, a new iPad. I tell her she can stay here as long as she needs. Wonders where she’ll move to that will let her have her dog. I have not begged her to stay once, and I refuse to. I’m trying to be as nice as possible without begging or acting needy. I fought back tears most of the day yesterday.

I check my Instagram (for those who don’t know, people post their photographs there) she has tons of likes and comments from OM, including on our daughter which makes me furious. I’m at a crossroads here, I know I need to get a life. Was thinking of going out tonight and enjoying myself, but I have no money. My paycheck is floating since she closed her account. What do you guys suggest? Is it over you think? I have a hard time doing a 180 that’s not talking to her because my attention neglect is what got us here. I’m thinking my 180 should be talking to her and giving her attention since I hadn’t done that before. Any advice?

Thanks,
D
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd also like to add that since i bought her the phone and she's on my plan. I took the cell phone from her table. Took it downstairs to connect to itunes to make a backup, I have never saw anyone have a meltdown like she did.
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You need to move this to the dealing with infidelity section.
She's having an emotional affair. Where does the other guy live?
And yes it is like crack, they get a hit of dopamine from talking to their EA partner.
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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He lives in Texas. I know for a fact they used to have phone sex before I was with her.
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You can't nice your way out of this.

Stop the emotional torture by tolorating her crap, if you have to go "visit" someone for awhile so you can clear your head and get your paycheck and make a plan.

Until your chick sees some real consequences from you, she will continue. So get your butt down to a lawyers and the court house and start doing the foot work to find your best options in showing your wayward wife what she is about to lose.

You will know if its working when she gets pissed off, see you we're on a roll but got stomped on when she freaked....once you started make her affair inconvienent she will get upset that was good.

So protect your marriage by showing your wayward wife the tough love and condidence that you are willing to let her go.

She has your number dude...get it?

Until you get her to seconded guess her choices she will continue.
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Old 08-04-2012, 05:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Her texts are being blocked as we speak, ready for a meltdown? I'm also turning the cell phone completely off when my daughter gets home. Since she's afraid to be around me, she can still make calls and if she calls him it's documented.
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Old 08-04-2012, 06:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well they aren't married yet. So courthouse really has nothing to do with it other than child visitation and support.
I would consult a lawyer about protecting yourself in terms of your child.
You have a big age gap and I can tell you I'm 40 and three years older than my h, and sometimes even that small gap makes me feel insecure or like I'm too old. I don't know if that is part of her issue but it doesn't matter.
If they have had phone sex before I would bet they are doing it now.
You might want to clue your police officer neighbor into what is going on just kind of casually do that if your F tries to call the police again the neighbor can put in a good word for you.
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Old 08-04-2012, 06:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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She's definitely insecure, she has said maybe the age difference is too much. But that's beside the point. She's been blocked for an hour. How much longer before the full blown meltdown or running to the PC to talk to him?
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I packed her things in the living room and put them in a box. She saw it and said I was a piece of work and started bawling. Left the room, still hates me.
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I packed her things in the living room and put them in a box. She saw it and said I was a piece of work and started bawling. Left the room, still hates me.
She hates you because you will not help her have an EA and maybe phone sex again with a man in tx? Some one is not thinking right.


Seems you have a choice here. You can allow her to treat you like a door mat or you can endure the pain for a few weeks and then get on with your life.


three cheers for you for not allowing someone to disrespct you and treat you like a dirty dish rag!
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Three cheers for you for not allowing someone to disrespct you and treat you like a dirty dish rag!
Yet he still will rub her feet and allow her to text OM the whole time?

One thing I will say is that you are acting a little juvenile by blocking her phone and watching her reactions. Blocking her phone is a waste of time, there are ways around, you should know.

She is texting another man because you are not meeting her emotional needs in the relationship. This OM is a symptom of problems in your relationship. I sense a huge gap in communication between the two of you that must be bridged in order for anything constructive to happen between the two of you. Quit being a doormat and playing the childish games. You need to man up and start to TALK to her about the problems in your relationship and get to the root cause. You admit that you have been neglecting her in the past, that is a good start. Don't treat the symtoms, find and treat the underlying causes.

You could probably benefit from some IC to help you develop skills that would help you communicate in your relationship.
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Yet he still will rub her feet and allow her to text OM the whole time?

One thing I will say is that you are acting a little juvenile by blocking her phone and watching her reactions. Blocking her phone is a waste of time, there are ways around, you should know.

She is texting another man because you are not meeting her emotional needs in the relationship. This OM is a symptom of problems in your relationship. I sense a huge gap in communication between the two of you that must be bridged in order for anything constructive to happen between the two of you. Quit being a doormat and playing the childish games. You need to man up and start to TALK to her about the problems in your relationship and get to the root cause. You admit that you have been neglecting her in the past, that is a good start. Don't treat the symtoms, find and treat the underlying causes.

You could probably benefit from some IC to help you develop skills that would help you communicate in your relationship.
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Yet he still will rub her feet and allow her to text OM the whole time?
OP, is the above quote by C3156 true? If it is then I over looked that part of your post and you are an enabler!

OP, make up your mind. If you need to meet her emotional needs then get with it! Tell her that you have failed at meeting her emotional needs and you are going to improve immediatly. Also tell her that the contact with the other man is to stop immediately. If she disagrees then grow a backbone and leave her and start another life.
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Ok, so I disconnected her phone. Told her to get her own. Then she played the "I can't believe you'd let me be without a phone when I have our daughter." card. I reconnected her phone. I saw her FB messages where she told OM all about me disconnecting her phone, when it was reconnected she said it was "safe" to text her again.

She also told OM that I had a lot of growing up to do. We'd always have to get along for our daughter, she was at peace with it. He asked her if she wanted to spoon? She said yes. They're talking even more frequently now and she says that she will leave before she gives her friends up again. She said that me invading her privacy is ridiculous and it's pissing her off. That If I keep it up, I'm going to make her do something bad. It's just harmless flirting she says. But with me invading her privacy, she may just do something. She said I treated her like **** for 7 years, I guess it's her turn now. I said you're having diarrhea all over me. She told me yesterday she couldn't text she was busy at work, yet had time to text him 143 times. And talk to him 40 minutes on the way home from work.

I confronted her again last night and said I cannot live like this. She said it's my "OCD" mind, I'm blowing things way out of proportion. She also makes it a point to have sex with me every night. Of course I do it, I want her to be mine and only mine.

It doesn't matter what I say to her anymore, she thinks she has me buffaloed, she can have her cake and eat it too. I'm madly in love with her and would never kick her out. She has nowhere to go, and her family will not approve of her behavior. I've set up an appointment with an attorney for Friday. I'm going to take the first steps to evict her and get custody of our daughter. When I tell her, I'm telling her her phone is disconnected as well and that's all there is to it.
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What's a "DB Coach?"

I'm glad you never married her - too many unresolved issues.

She found someone else. Yes it hurts like Hell but in time, you will heal from your broken heart.

She is also not a good Mother (right now). Please don't get defensive about this statement. I'm a Mother & would never behave like she does.

Good luck.

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She's definitely manipulating your heart strings and one mean, spiteful woman. Look over your own posts. She obviously has no love for you anymore and is just using you as a punching bag. She is being emotionally abusive, which is just as destructive as physical abuse. She's also trying to keep you under control so the money keeps coming in. Time to shoot the golden goose...

Time and time again you put your foot down to stop her behavior and she turns it around on you. The key is you have to stick to your guns! Don't let her make you feel like the one in the wrong. You know she's having a massive EA with this OM and she is brazen enough to not even hide it from you! She's gotta be stopped. She wants this OM, let him pay for her cell phone! You're doing the right thing by talking to a lawyer. Don't let her being a paralegal scare you. She's not a lawyer and even if she were, that doesn't mean you can't get fair representation.

Remember - you have a right to be happy in life and that means a life with someone who loves and respects you for who you are and won't walk over you like a doormat.
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