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Old 10-06-2010, 03:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Starting a new thread just for you, based on post #351 on land's thread.

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Sounds like my story just add a 2.9 year old kid to it. I am feeling ****** but have to put on a bold face for my son. I am posted in India and my wife thought she couldn't live here and so moved to spend time with her parents to a different country. I supported her all along as i understand India could be a difficult country. the affair should be about 3 months old but discovered it 1 week back. Since she was in the afffair all i heard from her was "I love you but am not in love with you". This is an office affair.

I cant approach the CEO or the HR of her office as the person she is having an affair is with THE CEO. I have contacted him he denied and the affair continues. Next day sent him a cease and desist mail to end the affair (with copies of his SMS and hr long calls to my wife) which he is not responded to.

After she got to know i exposed it to her "CEO" she hates me and blames me for everything. I have taken care of the kid for the last 2.9 yrs. I am unable to get in touch with her "CEO's" wife I wish could but not working.

She says she now is convinced that she needs a divorce as i was never a good husband and now have brought her shame.

She threatened to call my parents to let them know that she cant live with me any more and would file a divorce. I spoke about this to my mum and called my wife back the next day and handed the phone to my mum so she could have a word but my wife hung up.

I found that this guy was checking and reading my mails to my wife. So sent him and my wife this morning an email mentioning that he should stop reading my emails. He is himself married with two kids and is married for 12 yrs. I wanted to let my wife know that he is trying to be more controlling than i ever was because she accused me of this.

In this whole process i have not got in touch with my wife, all i did was sent her a mail saying she is always welcome provided she comes out of her fantasy land and says sorry to out son for what she has been doing. I will be doing a few more exposures tomorrow.

PLS HELP!!!! I want to save this marriage....
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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After she got to know i exposed it to her "CEO" she hates me and blames me for everything. I have taken care of the kid for the last 2.9 yrs. I am unable to get in touch with her "CEO's" wife I wish could but not working.
A little advice to start: in reality you have not exposed it to her lover (he is already fully aware of it, eh?) - you CONFRONTED him - and hopefully requested that he end the affair.

Exposure means that you uncover the affair, let it be seen by those to whom the 'lovers' (awful use of that word!) have lied. It is an uncovering of the secret.

Regarding being unable to approach her 'lover' is not as big a problem as you might expect: in pretty much every affair, the cheaters are highly unlikely to stop because a hurt spouse asks them to. The only way this would be effective is if the Other Man (or Woman) is unaware that a marriage exists. In that case, hearing from the wounded spouse can be quite effective.

So don't pursue that avenue any farther - he isn't going to pay any attention to you anyway - especially if your wife has already described you as controlling, manipulative, and unloving. He'll just perceive anything you say through the filter that has been set up by your wife.

On the other hand, contacting the HR department is a VERY good idea. They are very sensitive to the threat of sexual misconduct by their employees, and will take at least some steps that can create stress for the 'lovers'. Nothing stops you from contacting them - it is irrelevant if he is their boss: the business will be unwilling to avoid legal matters.

You can also keep investigating the CEO's life to find his wife. Diligence can pay off here.

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She says she now is convinced that she needs a divorce as i was never a good husband and now have brought her shame.
Guilt is a great way to manipulate you! If she can make this be all your fault, you'll back off and let her keep cheating on her husband. I can only wonder what kind of shame a cheating wife brings a faithful husband!

This is an example of what we call 'foggy' or 'dizzy' thinking: she's reversed reality to justify her affair. She can (and will) say all kinds of absurd things.

If she does bring this up, you can always turn this on her - if she says how you've brought shame on her, reply by admitting how shameful it is to have a cheating wife.

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She threatened to call my parents to let them know that she cant live with me any more and would file a divorce. I spoke about this to my mum and called my wife back the next day and handed the phone to my mum so she could have a word but my wife hung up.
This is excellent. You called her bluff. At the same time, you have exposed the affair to your parents. This creates stress on her - she won't be able to use them against you, which is often a necessity to keep an affair active.

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I found that this guy was checking and reading my mails to my wife. So sent him and my wife this morning an email mentioning that he should stop reading my emails.
Stop emailing this guy! Stop talking to him at all! There is no way this will help you - and in fact, may be doing more harm than good. Send emails to your wife knowing that he will read them. Make them loving and kind, talk about the things the kids are doing, etc. Do not plead, or beg, or threaten - simply relate things from home. Let him read you emails to her talking about all the nice stuff you are doing. That can be a two-edged sword - she'll hear stuff she is missing, and he'll be describing how nice things are with you. My guess is that he'll stop reading them quickly enough.

Advice: Stop concentrating on him and concentrate on your marriage. Ignore him, he is a distraction, a gnat, not worthy of your notice.

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In this whole process i have not got in touch with my wife, all i did was sent her a mail saying she is always welcome provided she comes out of her fantasy land and says sorry to out son for what she has been doing. I will be doing a few more exposures tomorrow.
Instead of requesting that she come out of her fantasy and apologize, try this instead: respectfully request that she end the affair, and that her home is open as long as she agrees to these three non-negotiable conditions: 1) She writes her boss a 'No Contact' letter which you read and you mail. This means she'll have to quit her job (non-negotiable) 2) You both agree to transparent honesty (all passwords, log-ins, etc. shared. 3) You both commit to working on your marriage.

She'll most likely laugh at that - but that is irrelevant. Those things are necessary if you wish to remain married. And if the affair dies, and she wants to return - those conditions will still remain. At that point she'll be reconsidering them.

Your job (regarding those conditions) is to simply make them known and keep them non-negotiable. Don't push them on her, but always take the opportunity to restate them whenever situations change.

Here's something to keep in mind: you cannot work on your marriage while an affair is ongoing. This means that right now, your job is to do all you can to end that affair.

Here is a series of steps you can take that are very effective - look them over.

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He is himself married with two kids and is married for 12 yrs. I wanted to let my wife know that he is trying to be more controlling than i ever was because she accused me of this.
While she is deep in the dizziness of her affair, she will not listen AT ALL to any rational reasoning. You will not be able to logically help the affair end by pointing out these things. Logic is essential, of course - any other way of acting will mean the death of your marriage - but you must, right now, be reasoning with the understanding that she is filtering EVERYTHING you say in a way that justifies her affair. And, more to the point: calling you controlling is STANDARD cheater script.
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have started with Operation Exposure. I spoke to her brother in law about this last night and emailed about this affair to her sister.

I also spoke to my God Mother and she should be calling her to find out what she has been up to.

In all this what i found out is she has been talking about me to her relatives and friends in a very bad light. Accusing me of things i havn't done and blaming me about everything that's gone wrong in this marriage. I agree i have my set of faults but not all. I am working on them to ensure i am able to bring in a positive change.

I am doing all i cant to get in touch with the OM's wife. No break through yet.

Before i talk to her about The No contact letter i would like to wait and see the effect of the exposures i did would impact her.

I am ready to wait and do all it takes to make this marriage work.
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Old 10-07-2010, 06:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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As you have found out, one of the added benfits of exposure is you get the truth out. You may very well beat her to the punch and save your reputation. I did. I followed AC's and T's advice. All those people remain my friends. She has chosen to lose them and ignore them as nothing she could say to them would be believed. Also she didn't want to hear how wrong and immature she is.
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Then call her relatives and set them straight. "I understand X has been telling you things about me, and I'd like to set the record straight. Ask me anything you want, and I'll tell you the truth. And part of the truth is that the reason she's telling you these things is that she's having an affair with her boss. She's trying to paint me as the bad guy so she has a 'reason' to cheat. But I'm trying to save our marriage, and I can only do that if she stops the affair. So I'm hoping you'll help me by talking to her about it, so she'll see it's not the exciting cool thing she thinks it is, but rather embarrassing and wrong."
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Still trying to get hold of this OM wife's number but no luck yet. I am very sure that once she comes to know about this affair she will get her husband to fire my wife.

I am told that one of our common friend who was on her BBM list was deleted /blocked by my wife because he supports my stand. She had called our other common friend and denied that she is having an affair. I have just sent our common friend the details of the call logs and her text msg let her judge it for her self on who is saying the truth.

Thanks for your advice i have emailed her family saying i am ready to face them and answer all their queries so we all know what the truth is. I haven't heard back from them yet but i hope they will support me on this.

All i can say at this stage its frustrating and painful. What i also fear at times is she may take my exposure as an act of revenge and hate me further....
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She will be angry, but what's the alternative? She gets to live the secret lifestyle behind your back while you suffer the consequences? The thing I ended up asking my wife when she was angry about me exposing was that if what she had was so wonderful, then why did she want it to be a secret?

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Still trying to get hold of this OM wife's number but no luck yet. I am very sure that once she comes to know about this affair she will get her husband to fire my wife.

I am told that one of our common friend who was on her BBM list was deleted /blocked by my wife because he supports my stand. She had called our other common friend and denied that she is having an affair. I have just sent our common friend the details of the call logs and her text msg let her judge it for her self on who is saying the truth.

Thanks for your advice i have emailed her family saying i am ready to face them and answer all their queries so we all know what the truth is. I haven't heard back from them yet but i hope they will support me on this.

All i can say at this stage its frustrating and painful. What i also fear at times is she may take my exposure as an act of revenge and hate me further....
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All i can say at this stage its frustrating and painful. What i also fear at times is she may take my exposure as an act of revenge and hate me further....
She may take it that way - she could perceive it in any number of ways. That's her freedom - what is important is why YOU are doing it. You are ending the deceit. She will get angry - but that can pass, and a marriage can survive that. A marriage cannot survive ongoing infidelity.

Regarding the fact that the Other Man's wife may insist she be fired - that is to be expected as well. In fact, she will need to at the very least transfer to another office, if not quit altogether. That's part of the price of an affair.

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you wrote earlier:

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Before i talk to her about The No contact letter i would like to wait and see the effect of the exposures i did would impact her.
The No Contact letter is only applicable if she is willing to end the affair - you don't need to bring it up yet anyway. That is part of three non-negotiable conditions you set up in case she wishes to return to the marriage. Right now, you need to show her the way home. How she gets there will come later.
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As i have not been able to get to the OM's wife, I am wondering should I send a mass email to all the office staff exposing the affair? What do you all suggest? I have a feeling there may be someone who may know her.... Will there be any legal implications?
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She will be angry, but what's the alternative? She gets to live the secret lifestyle behind your back while you suffer the consequences? The thing I ended up asking my wife when she was angry about me exposing was that if what she had was so wonderful, then why did she want it to be a secret?
I agree with you but this is what worries me. From what i gather she is mighty pissed with me for exposing it and blaming me for everything that went wrong. Not that i am a saint i have my set of flaws but am ready to work on them or rather working on them to bring in the positive change.

I am very sure all this exposure is disturbing (friends and family calling her to advise her no access to our son) her a lot. My fear being what if the OM may be consoling and showing affection and care her and making love deposits out of this situation. Isn't this possible?

What do you think is going through my wife's mind right now?
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She's going to blame you. She has to find a way to justify to other people why she's doing what she is. Don't worry about that part. I know it's hard, but if you don't get the truth out there, people will actually believe the things she tells them. From experience, they will say anything from "He was abusive" to "He was ruining our finances". They will say it to somehow make it look like you were purposely running them off and the other person was there to catch them. The other man may be consoling her, but I can guarantee it won't help much if everyone else around them knows what is really going on and frowns upon it.

As far as e-mailing the entire office, I say no. That DOES look like revenge. The scope of your exposure needs to be people that would be impacted by a potential divorce. This includes your family, her family, your friends, her friends, your employer, and her employer. While her employer is the other person, if you actually know people within the office, and some of these people are her friends, then by all means, contact those people. The other people in the office will find out soon enough.
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As i have not been able to get to the OM's wife, I am wondering should I send a mass email to all the office staff exposing the affair? What do you all suggest? I have a feeling there may be someone who may know her.... Will there be any legal implications?
No, do NOT do that! YOU could end up being sued or worse.

Do you have money to hire someone to track down his wife? Can you buy a program online to search her? She is really the key to harming the affair at this point. It is VITAL. What is your marriage worth? IF you don't spend the money to find her, you'll be spending a lot more to divorce.
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Have you contacted HR? You said you can't, but that is not true. They are legally and ethically bound to do their job no matter what he says or does. Ask them to take it to someone higher than him. And if they don't, YOU take it to someone higher than him.
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Thanks for your advice. I will not send the mail to her office colleagues as you all suggested.

I have her Facebook account but am not writing to her as i guess this OM may have access to them too. If he can check my wife's email account i am sure he does the same for his wife too. More so since i know he knows i am on his heels.

I have his residential address but since i have to provide my return address i am sure he will trace the mail back to me and make sure it never reaches his wife.

What other options do i have?
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Well, you could start with all the advice I have given you...
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