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Another horrible story with infidelity.

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#10 ·
I had also posted this story a week or two ago over in the "does it seem like lots of wives cheating" thread.

You look at the Corwins, you see nice kids, a kind of innocence. In the one picture I saw of Lee, he looked like a dlck. Another "bad boy" type.

The bright side is there have been a few successful murder prosecutions without a body. "Bad Boy" seems dumb enough that he may give enough damaging ammo to get himself in the wringer. He also seem rather predictable, which may help to find the body. He probably had his cell phone with him at all times, that could help to track his whereabouts.

Everyone involved seems to have a blabbermouth gene.
 
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Infidelity is very common in the military, both by militaries and spouses, for the same reasons it's common with long distance relationships. Prolonged separations are terrible for marriages; in the miliary though there is generally more opportunity to cheat. This is especially true of spouses, and particularly those who live in base housing.

Sadly, I agree that her body will probably not be found. But maybe om will get drunk and run his mouth and someone will rat him out. There's actually a pretty good chance of that.
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When I did my rounds, the deserts of iraq, somalia, there were guys there that received this kind of news at a regular pace. 5000 plus miles from home and they were helpless. They would walk around and pace making windows, know what I mean. These guys some friends some not, were bottom line in he!! I didn't have a girlfriend at the time for that reason. Got the jist from my dad (vietnam vet), he was very clear about the dear john crap. I saw a picture in the news of the bh and the idiot. The om man was a vet and he knows the hurt and yet he doesn't even care what he did to his brother (band of brother) so to speak. So much for the core values. Honor, integrity etc... He didn't learn a thing.
 
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Back in my days, no emails, no Skype sessions in the barracks ... Just plain paper letters. So you sit on the bunk near this guy, who's reading a letter from home and you look at his face and you know this is that letter... So good CO can just keeps him very occupied and nowhere near the weapons.




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Tragic that Anerica has built this huge military force that costs so much. Lives are lost but clearly the social costs are high.

The broken military families generate new generations of poorly educated people from dysfunctional parents who repeat the cycle. Yes, there are plenty of fine people in the services, too. Statistically, America loses. Infidelity and divorce are one cost. Substance abuse and PTSD are others. The VA scandal shows that politicians don't care enough to fix it.

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Tragic that Anerica has built this huge military force that costs so much. Lives are lost but clearly the social costs are high.

The broken military families generate new generations of poorly educated people from dysfunctional parents who repeat the cycle.
Yes, there are plenty of fine people in the services, too. Statistically, America loses. Infidelity and divorce are one cost. Substance abuse and PTSD are others. The VA scandal shows that politicians don't care enough to fix it.

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WTF, you think military people are poorly educated? The dregs of society? Trailer trash?
 
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In that case Scott Peterson was the one having the affairs and didn't want to be a parent because it would disturb his life style. Scott Peterson was convicted compleatly on circumstantial evidence (although I think he's as guilty as sin). This case is pretty different. Erin Corwin's infidelity gives this husband a very clear motive for murder and I'm sure the police are digging into this. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
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oh my word, I remember reading about this when it first happened, and totally forgot about it until reading this thread!!! So thank you!! When it first came out and I read the circumstances then, I felt that her husband probably had something to do with it. The fact that her car was found abandoned nearby. And that it was said she was planning on scouting out scenic places to take pictures with her mom when she visited in the future in Joshua Tree Park. I was like... who lets their wife go to a vast desert area by herself?! I had NO IDEA about these new developments.

So by the articles you provided, and then a few others I googled for, what do you think happened? The things about the neighbors wife saying the body won't be found and her husband couldn't keep his lies straight almost makes me think they collaborated on this girl's death? Instead of the dude having the affair secret and doing off with her and his wife having no idea. Sounds like she does though!!
 
#24 ·
Maybe it was the boyfriend's baby.

Early on during Vietnam, there were college deferments. I don't remember when or if those ended but one of the arguments against the draft when I was young was who was being drafted. Not too many middle class boys. I was in college in the mid-1960's and the ROTC boys I knew were going in after graduation but no one else I knew considered that as an option. Obviously, there were some middle class boys in the military (besides those who were officers) but it was mostly working class boys.

Now, without the draft, the stereotype is still that those who don't have many/any options enlist in the military. In other words, not too many middle class boys rush into the military right after high school. Regardless of who joins, a lot of them marry very young as both these couples apparently did. Sad story.
 
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Mrs. Lee will be the key. The detectives will have the screws to her:

"Your husband, the father of your kid, is going to spend the rest of his life in prison. You know it, we all do. Are you going to be in prison also, or fix this problem so your kid at least has one parent in his life? Its up to you. That kid is perfectly capable of growing up and only seeing mom across a prison table for the rest of your life. No birthday parties, soccer games, movie nights, weddings....He can be that kid with mom doing life with no parole."
 
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I'm thinking the news articles got it mixed up with the initial reports that Erin told her mom she was going to Joshua Tree National Park to scope out picturesque locations for photography. News stations misreport all the time. I bet there are some hunting grounds near there, though. And maybe everyone just refers to it as "going hunting at Joshua Tree."
 
#38 ·
Apparently Erin was not happy with John. At parties she would tell her friends this while he was asleep or in another room. John found out about the affair and forgave her. He wanted to work on the marriage but then she apparently took it underground. The entire thing is baffling to say the least. She had gushed on her FB page about the love she had for John and how he was her soul mate and she was counting down the days till she could be with him. Then not 3 months into married life together she began her affair with CL. She had been texting her friend back in TN that she was pretty sure the baby was not her husbands. So maybe not even using birth control? This seems to be some kind of awfully reckless behavior for a newlywed supposedly in love with her hubby.

I have heard that the police know who did it and they are building a case. CL probably sh*t his pants when he found out that she had been texting her friend that CL had planned a "special day" for her to celebrate her pregnancy with a hunting trip in the desert. He probably thought it was their little secret and nobody else knew about it. The whole thing is sad....if the friend in TN had only spoken up about it, tried to talk some sense into her or perhaps alerted someone in the family, things might have turned out differently.:(
 
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I'm inclined to agree. Supposedly they were going "hunting" a 2 hour drive into the desert. That would be like trying to find a needle in 1000 haystacks. Still can't believe that that didn't throw up any red flags to Erin. Pregnant with my baby, I'm just about ready to move back to Alaska, a court martial or years of child support payments could be in my future if anyone finds out or if you blab.....hey I have an idea let me take you hunting way out in the 100+ degree heat in the desert. :scratchhead:
 
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I live less than an hour from Joshua Tree....for those of you that have never been out there, the desert is a HUGE empty area...if no one cracks, the authorities will almost assuredly never find her body.

Its sort of dark humor in these parts discussing just how many bodies are out there never to be found....my best guess is A LOT.
 
#44 ·
I REALLY hope what Jambri said is correct and they truly are building a case.
Like what J said all it would have taken someone older to read the texts but of course when you are that young and "in love"

I really hope some older marines have been talking to him.
I would not wish this on anyone.:mad:
 
#45 ·
"A lot."

lol...yep....I agree Bandit.

I always joke with my friends that if I ever have a situation where I know its either me or them, and there is no possible other way to solve the situation, I'll just have to add to the collection out there.

Of course its a joke, but I'd bet money that many a dispute has been handled in exactly that way in these parts for a long time.
 
#47 ·
"The military is a breeding ground for betrayers. In the Navy it exceeds 90%."

I graduated from the Naval Academy and was an officer for several years.

While 90% might be a bit high, I agree in general with what you say.

Saw a lot of M guys on my ship who just took their rings off when we pulled into liberty ports.

And saw a lot of M wives whose H's were deployed sl**ting around at the officer's club or local clubs while their H's were gone.

One of my good friends was stationed in Norfolk...he told me (it was his story and I never confirmed it one way or the other) that his ship left port for deployment, but three days out had some engineering issues so turned about and unexpectedly returned to port...he said there were LOTS of couples that ended up getting divorced out of that cause the H's caught their WW's and gf's already hooking up with their POSOM's.

I was in the Pac...but based on what I saw, I never questioned his story.
 
#49 ·
I'm trying to imagine the sheer shock she must experienced once she realized her fate. If he even gave her that chance.. maybe he just shot her from behind. The guy's a sociopath.. he simply used a woman and destroyed her.

Looks like a typical case of nice guy husband, more alpha OM and extremely naive WW.
 
#50 ·
I have always believed it was a case of let her get a couple steps ahead of me and bang, one shot to the back of her head to turn the lights out. Quick, painless and this cowards' true intent would never be revealed. Either that or there was an argument, she told him she would tell his wife about the pregnancy if he didn't leave her and he snapped. If she had no more love for John (which is still really hard for me to believe) and she wanted to start over with a biologically intact family this could be a very real possibility. Who knows....
 
#53 ·
Personnel summary:

BS - genuinely good guy, aspiring military and family man, maybe somewhat vanilla
WW - has "cheaters' eyes"
OM - complete a-hole *********
OM's wife - complete hag, probably disordered or addicted to something

If the child is his, terrible terrible.
If the child is not his (more likely), hurts in another way.

My wife cheated.
My wife was killed in cold blood.
My wife was pregnant.
It was my baby.
It was not my baby.

Jesus Christ - this guy must be in the psycho ward by now.
 
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