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post #61 of 115 (permalink) Old 09-19-2011, 03:30 PM
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oh jesus, cut the crap- adultery is not the same as molestation or rape.

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I must point out that oftentimes the victims to child molesters and rapists are indeed "willing" participants.
I hope you are joking.

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If these women actively pursue to have A, then that is one thing, but in case of homewreckers, they smell these women out and target them by scheming and coaxing to the point they just cannot say no. .
Again, affairs involve TWO WILLING PARTICIPANTS. You cannot have an affair without a THIRD WILLING party unless the OM/OW does not know the disloyal spouse is in fact, married. And if they DO NOT know, it is STILL an affair. Nobody sticks a gun to ANY married person's head and makes them have an affair. It does not work that way.

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So, why shouldn't they be compared to serial murderers, child molestors, rapists, and all other despicable crimiinals?
Because serial rapists', child molestors', and serial murderers' recipients are victims, not willing participants.

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oh jesus, cut the crap- adultery is not the same as molestation or rape.
Thank you!!!

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oh jesus, cut the crap- adultery is not the same as molestation or rape.


Seriously.


Real women don't want flowers and chocolate.
They want vodka and Taco Bell.
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Jelly,

A few minutes ago I got word from a friend who is a police detective regarding OM's death. Suffice it to say that he couldn't provide me with any details without getting himself or me into trouble, but he did tell me that his death was pretty gruesome.

'I'd rather live by a dream, than live by a lie.
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To be fair, she can't wreak havoc without a willing participant.
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I was not a willing participant. Neither of these clever people asked my permission. There is no way this cannot cause devastation unless you really never cared about your spouse to begin with. I am not the least interested in being "fair" to any skank who would intrude knowingly into a marriage, or any betrayer of their own or anyone else's marriage. This is deeply unfair to the spouse who has been cheated on. Nice people don't do this! Most victims of this spend at least two years trying to get their feet back under them, some never do. More than 70% of marriages affected by infidelity don't survive. If my H had told me that he wanted this piece of s**t woman, I would have held the door for him, but he wanted to eat cake and so did she( she is also married). He exposed me to every creeping thing that she has ever rutted with. That is not fair! Being "fair" means being honest to begin with; being "fair" means not going after what is not yours. If you can't concern yourself with being "fair" to others than you have no right to expect others to be "fair" with you.
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You honestly don't want things to be "fair". If things were fair, you would have to watch your husband/wife deteriorate with cancer like others have. If things were fair, you would have to lose your husband/wife in a plane crash/car wreck/freak accident like others have. If things were fair, you would have gotten a disease from your wayward spouse like others have. If things were fair, you would have your spouse leave you for your brother/uncle/dad like others have.

Let's be truthful. You don't really want things to fair, because if it was, ever awful thing that has ever happened to someone would happen to you. That would be fair, right????
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Jelly,

A few minutes ago I got word from a friend who is a police detective regarding OM's death. Suffice it to say that he couldn't provide me with any details without getting himself or me into trouble, but he did tell me that his death was pretty gruesome.
Oh wow. That is crazy. Maybe your local paper or local news will have more info.

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I was not a willing participant.
The betrayed spouse is never a willing participant. That much is true. However, Pidge is right:

Without a spouse that is willing to cheat, there can be no affair.
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Life is not fair, but justice can happen from time to time. There is no telling why this person was killed. But from information given this just may not be the biggest loss to society.
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Whether adultary is in the same league with rape/murder/terrorism, depends entirely on one's culture. I wouldn't likely murder my wife's lover (if she had one), not because I think it would be immoral to do so but because there would be no advantage to it. She owes me loyalty, he does not. Besides, murdering him wouldn't make her any more trustworthy. If it weren't him, it would be someone else.
One who commits murder only takes someone's life. The victim's problems are over. An adulterer, takes peoples' past, present, and future plans and dreams, leaving others with the tough work of cleaning up their mess. Murderers rarely reoffend but adulterers almost always do. I could make a pretty strong argument that adulterers deserve a headshot more than a murderer.
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I could make a pretty strong argument that adulterers deserve a headshot more than a murderer.
I don't know about "more than" a murderer, but there is a reason adultery was grounds for stoning in the old testament days. If the Bible gave stoning as the sentence for adultery, then it is a pretty serious crime. This current culture makes it look like a petty shoplifting of a piece of candy.

Mori, I hope you do have a rock-solid alibi. I know for sure, I would be a suspect if anything ever happened to OM. I'm just glad he lives so far away.

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post #71 of 115 (permalink) Old 09-20-2011, 12:34 PM
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It is so incredibly saddening and sickening to read the posters that rejoice or are apathetic to a murder! It is disheartening to see such cold heartless venom uttered from mouths, such contemptous thoughts! To read of karmic buses... is there no empathy are you not human??

Was it justice.. perhaps... but there is no information from the OP as to the circumstances nor situation.

Barely a shred of compassion....

Just rash harsh judgement from most... all I see is people throwing stones who live in glass houses! I can't imagine anyone condemning another when they refuse to look at themselves... are you so pure and perfect???

Unbelievable - I am flabbergasted! You call yourself decent??? If you suggest people 'need' killing then pick up your sword and have at it instead of boasting to a computer screen. See how far you get... will you be praised as a hero??? How can you talk of humanity??!! If you wish to live a life with "an eye for an eye" mentality then retribution shall be forever.. everyone will be blind! Are you so perfect? Have you not the capacity to forgive??

Marksaysay - I'm with you....

It truly is a sad day...
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post #72 of 115 (permalink) Old 09-20-2011, 12:48 PM
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Of course some people need killing! I wasn't sent to Iraq twice to distribute posies. We don't send the SWAT team out to hold hands and sing campfire songs. There are some honestly really bad jokers in this world. I don't know if this adulterer deserved what he received or not. I do know that he realized homicide was at least a potential consequence of his actions and he proceeded anyway.
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If you suggest people 'need' killing then pick up your sword and have at it instead of boasting to a computer screen. See how far you get... will you be praised as a hero??? How can you talk of humanity??!! If you wish to live a life with "an eye for an eye" mentality then retribution shall be forever.. everyone will be blind!
I don't think anyone is saying to go pick up a sword and kill all adulterers. I know I'm not. I have had to, as I'm sure many others here have, struggle with the urge to cause physical harm to OM. It's just not worth it. I think what most are saying is that this OM was playing with fire. Sometimes, when you play with fire, you get burned.

I agree with the other poster. Our military is not trained to give out flowers. Neither are our police officers. I do not celebrate the death of any human being. Having been trained to kill, I still have a deep respect for human life. Heck, I am a hunter and take time to reflect on the taking of a life of a deer each time I kill one.
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Of course some people need killing! I wasn't sent to Iraq twice to distribute posies. We don't send the SWAT team out to hold hands and sing campfire songs. There are some honestly really bad jokers in this world. I don't know if this adulterer deserved what he received or not. I do know that he realized homicide was at least a potential consequence of his actions and he proceeded anyway.
If people need to be killed... as you say... in Iraq, or any war zone... the collateral damage of the deaths of 10's if not 100's of thousands is justifiable?? I know you were called to duty and serving your country.. for which I honor you... in this case... I disagree with the war.. not you.

As for the SWAT team... they do NOT do out with the intention of murdering or killing!!! That is ludacris! That, like any police force, to enforce the ultimate physical harm is there UTMOST LAST RESORT!

I can understand your pain... for now I know where it comes from... my prayers for you to find inner peace and become whole again... no person comes back from war without deep scars to be healed... peace be with you.
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I could make a pretty strong argument that adulterers deserve a headshot more than a murderer.
Wow. Sick.

And it's good to know that this isn't considered an ok thing to do.
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