I agree. I would not give any credence to what that POS says. The only thing that I would pay any attention to is your wife's actions. It sounds like she is doing everything she can to demonstrate remorse and rebuild you trust. I would focus completely on that.
About an hour before that, we got another email from her lover. Basically a good bye but it called into question a number of things that she has told me are the gospel truth for months now. She celebrated that, because his is so honorable and would not want to lose face, that he will truly never contact us again and completely missed the parts that make her story to date on any number of points a bunch of bullsh!t. Meanwhile, he also alluded to things that I feel he shouldn't know based on when she sent the NC letter and swore him off in December.
It kind of messed me up bad and she responded by taking things she had finally come to grips with and rewriting the past into new flavors to defend her positions about loving him, loving me, plans for divorce, and their future together. Repeatedly, and boom! there we go right back to square zero with the lying. Big sigh.
I am struggling to understand this. Can anyone explain?
I am struggling to understand this. Can anyone explain?
Its probably best if Tover clarifies but my understanding was that he revealed more details in a farewell bomb. Tover got upset at these details because in his mind it called into question what he thought was the truth. He felt that he had been trickle truth'd again. She tried to reexamine what she had told him in light of these new details but he isn't buying it. I and some others think this POS OM is somehow still spying on them and collecting data to use in his little game and that's where this info may have come from.
She has long insisted and part of our post-nup is her insistence they never met in person or that she had sex with others. This email, below with names removed to protect me and the guilty, calls into question...
- Postnup conditions, though this by itself doesn't allow me to trigger it
- Prostitution...?! WTF?
At the end of the day that thing that really bothered me was when she finished reading it, she turned to me with a big smile and said basically, "Well we'll never hear from him again. I know him. Once he makes a promise or gives his word, he'll stick to it. He's very consistent and honorable that way. So that's true, but all the rest of this is a lie."
I wouldn't rule out her dad being in contact with him. If her dad shows up here, my Glock and a restraining order are all he will find.
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It has been a few weeks. I see that you and she are too cowardly and pathetic to call me. Believe you me when I say I thought a lot about doing the things I could do. The sad thing is that I realized something. I will share this with you and then you will not ever hear from me again. My favorite girl was sucking my **** and I was thinking about how delicious the same experience has been with WIFE. WIFE you are a ****ing hot piece of ass. There is nothing TOVER or even the world could do to take that away from you. I loved you and you love me. You will never forget me. The time we shared in Utah certainly but all the other times both together and by digital sex methods will live on with me, in you as you recall how it felt to have me buried in you and spraying cum down your throat. LOLZ. Certainly with TOVER as he cries hisself to sleep each night with bad dreams of how hot you are with me. I realized I do not don't need revenge because forever is truth and truth is forever.
Forever, WIFE you are a hot piece of ass and you pledged yourself to me. You need that. TOVER can't or won't not give it to you like only I can. You know where to to find. TOVER knows you know. Any trust you might pretend to rebuild will never stand up to the hot burning lust and love we shared. TOVER you are pathetic and that is why she never loved you. You knew and she was terrified you knew long before you acted on it and I can't imagine a world where a coward like you can make this work. Just think of it... the woman you married and had kids with has been cheating on you the whole marriage. She burned so hot for me that whether you rocked her world to the point you had epiletical fits - YOU WERE NOT ENOUGH and SHE CAME TO ME AGAIN AND AGAIN FOR MORE. And get this... most of the time, I wasn't even there you mother****er! Talking with me and texting with me was enough to complete her sex cycle all those times you thought you rocked her world AND FAILED. Will that change? No. It is a forever truth. Here is another truth, she loves me. Sure she might be mad at me but I never promised her love. I promised her Lust. As her master, I drove orgasms through her you never could you fat ****. WIFE, your anger is because you confuse Love and Lust and your truth is you need both to be happy and fulfilled. You will never be fulfilled with someone like TOVER because he leaves a void in your life where you can't be happy pretending to not like liquer, even weed, even sex, even sex with lots of people, and lets not forget your hopes to have sex be a way to earn money. I have scores of girls just like you WIFE, but only you fell into my heart and soul. I can still put you out there for the world and like a hot sex toy you can ride the world to fame, climax, and fortune just like you wanted. And THAT truth is forever too. You know where to find me. I don't love you anymore but I know what makes you tick and I'm not below a hot **** for fun and money.
TOVER I know it was you, on pal, asking about the pledge video. Choke on this... it was a hot pledge. She gave herself to me like she never gave herself to anyone and it made her hot and horny. Have you heard of it? If she and me were closer, she'd be the hotwife and you'd be the chubby pathetic loser in the background watching his wife getting ****ed by man and woman and man and woman and so on until she literally can't move except to beg for more. Our video of her pledge... you might find on the net. It's out there. But it shows forever truths that may or may not help you and WIFE. If you're getting divorced, bravo. That is the right thing to do. If not, I'm sorry but I just don't not see how a married family survives something like sexual enslavement! LOLZ. She was so hot that night. I took her up the ass when the video was done and she almost used me up like a cum hungry sex demon! When we collapsed after, she used your stupid dress to wipe her ass blood off my ****. She ever do that for you? No. She pledge herself to you and show it? No. She tell you the truth about how I broke up with her? No. I will. She offer you her ring as part of the pledge? No, not even as part of your ridiculous marriage she cares so little for. She offered it to me and I said no you would notice. That email from Dec [the NC contact letter] really threw me for a loop I thought it must be a decoy or a test. I broke up with her in October when she freaked out about the polygraph. My girls need to be stronger. My girls would go into the polygraph masterbating and screaming out their answers and getting off on the truth. WIFE, you'll never be free while you lie. You are a sex demon and your fire is lust. Let it burn and get away from the wet blanket you pretend to love.
There is no revenge needed. Your god will let this go but never forget who owns you *****. You won't hear from me again. I am cutting off contact with you. LOLZ.
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How she could have a big smile while reading that I can't comprehend. Extremely disturbing she could have a big smile, even if she thought this was the last message from him.
Her using the word "honorable" in connection with him is also extremely disturbing.
Meanwhile, he is angry about having lost to you. I doubt you have heard the last from him.
This guy sounds like a child reading a bad porno script. If it wasn't hurting you so much I would be laughing at his over the top crap.
Let me ask you, what was it in this email that you question? Was it the thing about Utah? Did your wife go to Utah? If not then this whole email was bunk. If so, I would bet that he found out by spying on you guys somehow and used it to concoct this story.
He mentioned something about a video. Did that give you pause to doubt her story? How so?
I'm sorry if my questions are painful in any way but from how you described her reaction I can't believe there is any veracity in his statements. She would have paused uncomfortably or trembled a bit if anything were true. Instead she was happy to find out its finally over. Either she is the greatest actress in the world or she is genuine in her remorse. And I read her comments on the other board. Meryl Streep she is not.
How she could have a big smile while reading that I can't comprehend. Extremely disturbing she could have a big smile, even if she thought this was the last message from him.
Her using the word "honorable" in connection with him is also extremely disturbing.
Meanwhile, he is angry about having lost to you. I doubt you have heard the last from him.
Look, by no means am I defending her but if I were harassed like the Tovers have been I would latch on to any hope that it would be over. Furthermore, she knows that every email triggers Tover and I'm sure she wanted him to feel relieved that it was over so they can continue building positively toward each other. At least that would be how I would react.
You do need to talk to her about how she is viewing him. She's speaking nicely of him, defending him - when she should be viewing him as threat #2 to her marriage - right behind herself which is threat #1.
In counseling you might want to bring up talking about how she is again apparently romanticizing him.
BTW - I hope by now you've burned the wedding dress in question.
Certainly time for another polygraph. She defends him and claims he is honorable? What is wrong with this picture? Do you feel special and proud that she is your wife?
I agree with Beowulf, the OM/ men/boys are playing you like a cheap drum. Unless you are somehow enjoying this, get a new computer, phones etc. and say nothing by email to anyone he has contacted or may have addresses to about your situation. If you think you've got it bad what about his miserable fantasy of a life. Whatever you think, he's thinking he lost your wife to you. Your wife was just naively playacting and it got out of hand.
You know he is technically savy to have set up several untraceable emails (at least by you). Untill you do what can be done to have him found or do whats necessary to block him you are going to risk your families future.
Of course your wife smiled and was happy. She thought his bs was obvious (pathetic is what it actually was) and you would hear from him no more.
Wedding dress is nowhere to be found. Until it shows up, I'm operating on the fact that she gave it to him. I talked to my attorney re: the postnup and he doesn't think this is enough of a smoking gun to have the postnup stand. Sighs. Attorney said to basically contact the guy and tell him we're getting divorced, monitor their behavior, and that alone creates the postnup situation. I wasn't even tempted by this because I don't want this guy in my daughter's lives.
No, I'm not proud that she is my wife. Yes, I did talk to her about romanticising him. We were doing pretty well too until this. Now everything is kind of blown up, not really back at square one or any square.
Yes, it is pathetic. I enjoy how the writing styles keep changing though.
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