I confronted the OW

aug · 11-16-2011, 08:36 AM

The best thing that can happen to these religious hypocrites is to expose them. You'll be doing them a spiritual favor by showing them the way to repentance.

Make sure you have secured your proofs.

chapparal · 11-16-2011, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by onthefence16

Barnibus...I wrote a letter to the Pastor of the church...he never wrote back nor acknowledged my letter....so much for that.....It is not up to me to judge...thier judgement awaits them.....

Letter may have been intercepted, may have been lost in the mail, may have been told you were a nut. I personally think exposure is essential in helping to stop further cheating.

Or, something is wrong with your pastor, maybe involved. Talk to him and find out. Your congrgation needs you.

chapparal · 11-16-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy

Its behavior by so called religious people and their leaders that makes me believe that there is no god. For if there really was one, evil people like them wouldn't exist.
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Evil exists because of free will. If there is no God then there is no free will, we're just riding the wave of the Big Bang.

chapparal · 11-16-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by onthefence16

Barnibus...I wrote a letter to the Pastor of the church...he never wrote back nor acknowledged my letter....so much for that.....It is not up to me to judge...thier judgement awaits them.....

.....It is not up to me to judge...thier judgement awaits them.....[/QUOTE]

It was pointed out to me the other day that the verse, that this idea comes from, is taken out of context more than anyother one. The Bible admonishes over and over that we judge others in order to be good Christians. One example: (paraphrase) "Do not cast pearls before swine."

Craggy456 · 11-16-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NoIssues

Thank you for reminding me why I dont associate with churchy hypocrites chasing an invisible being in the sky with all the answers. What a load of crap

What is that old saying that fundies scream......."Do as I say, not as I do"

Jellybeans · 11-16-2011, 12:25 PM

OTF--good for you for doing that. I bet it lets you have some closure.

onthefence16 · 11-18-2011, 10:42 PM

Wow.....how hypocritical some christians are...as I read the post I just want to scream....
I spoke with the woman I was renting from and no response, that was over a month ago maybe a month and half......I knew when she told me she wrote me a letter it was a lie...when she told me she didn't have feelings for my WH it was a lie....and everything else the TROLL told me was a lie....but that's OK....Yes I have heard of the Death Penalty....and that happens when we stand in front of the Creator of the Universe for judgement.....just because someone claims to follow Yahushua/Jesus doesn't make them saved nor does that make them a true follower....there are many minions who live in the skin of those who claim to be chistains.....I am seeing it more and more....our reward follows us...just because we ask for forgivness doesn't mean we still will not have to give account for our actions......and I wonder what is grieving the holy spirit??? Is it these supposed followers of Christ who do the very thing that brought me to this site???? I would tend to think yes.....but then again I am not the judge....I hope for my WH sake that my thoughts on that subject are incorrect....I still do love him...he is trying.....and I am working towards reconcilliation....am I a fool....only time will tell...but if this is to happen again...I will not be so amiacable and nice.....

OhGeesh · 11-19-2011, 07:15 AM

Good for you!! It takes two to tango and I always place the blame solely with the person you are in the relationship with.

As far as hyprocrite this or that........yep no doubt about it, but answer me this at what point does Jesus's blood not save? At what point does forgiveness for transgressions stop?

No one likes to forgive............but if you are a christian and believe MURDERERS are forgiven. You don't think people who commit adultery are?

I hope you are healing!!

onthefence16 · 11-19-2011, 09:30 AM

You misunderstand my statement....I have forgiven both of them but this does not mean we forget....forgive and forget are not in Scripture....forgivenss is....Forgiveness is for the person who is hurt not for the offender....forgivenss is to lessen the burden of pain and through this we do not take revenge.....YHWH/God is the revenger....that is Scriptual....Just because someone claims to believe does not make them a Christian....being a christian is to take up your cross and follow Him....not use Him as a cloak to hide behind.....98% of Christians are hypocrites....I myself am sometimes a hypocrite...I smoke cigaretts, I curse sometimes, I get angry and think of revenge.....but do I carry my thoughts out no...do I smoke yes...does this make me a bad person...NO....because I follow Christ.....Do you understand how hard it is to forgive truly forgive...? My WH doesn't work, he admitted to using me, he cheated on me, brought the woman to my home, etc, etc......I have forgiven him and am reconciling with him....does this mean I trust him...NO...does this mean I have to treat him with kit gloves NO.....does this mean my marriage will work....I don't know......FORGIVENSS is not for the other person but for you....Now do I believe the blood that Christ shed saves the person who confesses Christ....yes at first....but if that person then after accepting the gift of life then goes off and intentionally sins does this mean they are still saved....NO.....grieving the holy spirit is never given definition in Scripture....but I can assure you that if one accepts Christ and then turns and intentionally and willfully (key words) sins then they lose thier salvation......Christ tells the parable of the wheat and the tares....Tell me who are the tares? Is it the unbeleivers....No....it is the believers....you may want to re-read that parable.....Being a Christian or follower of Messiah does not mean we use Him and do whatever we want...nor does it mean that we should put all the blame on the advasary...because we have FREE WILL....we either walk the narrow path or we walk the wide road...we have a choice....We are forgiven but we will also stand in front of YHWH and give account of our life and what we did with it after recieving the gift of life....we will answer as to whether we picked up our cross or tossed it to the side for lustful pleasures of this world.....a Christian who willfully sins loses thier salvation and must pray and change in order to get another chance.....only through true repentance will Christ again give another chance....remember He tells the sinner go and sin NO MORE.....He does not say, hey follow me and live as you will.....NO He tells us to pick up our cross and follow Him.......remember our reward follows us....He will bring his reward or his sword........upon return to collect His elect

OhGeesh · 11-19-2011, 10:08 AM

I'll take it to PM I don't want this to become a religious discussion.

onthefence16 · 11-19-2011, 10:34 AM

PM????? This is not a religious discussion this is a discussion and it's my thread....if people want to discuss thier beliefs that is fine with me.....