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Old 03-24-2012, 01:32 PM   #46 (permalink)
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So he is likely unable to perform now. And maybe permanently. And you are recommending what exactly:
- She accept being celibate open ended
- She should leave him

Why are either of those alternatives superior to the current situation?



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I'm currently in contact with a woman who is having sex outside her marriage. She says her husband is currently unemployed and actively looking for work. He apparently isn't interested in sex right now and she has a high sex drive. She said she talked to him but he said the stress on him right now is affecting his drive. They have no children currently.

She has been seeing another man she says strictly for sex while her husband cannot give her what she needs. Claims there is no emotional attachment, it's all physical. She admits that she feels guilty bu justifies it by saying she can't live without sex and it's better than leaving him. I've been trying to tell her that she WILL be caught eventually. I've been trying to explain the damage she is causing to herself right now and the pain she will be causing her husband when he finds out. She is most certainly in the fog.

I've seen some of the responses by former WS on here and they have oftentimes brought me to tears. Are there any words that I can convey that will make her wake up? I tried to encourage her to come to TAM and hear the responses she will receive but she declines. I don't know enough about her personal life to even consider letting her husband know even if I wanted to. I'm just really heartbroken that I can't seem to help her see reason.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:59 PM   #47 (permalink)
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B,
So he is likely unable to perform now. And maybe permanently. And you are recommending what exactly:
- She accept being celibate open ended
- She should leave him

Why are either of those alternatives superior to the current situation?
I can sort of answer this one MEM, although just to be clear it is my personal opinion and nothing more.

In a lifelong relationship people can and are unable to have sex for a variety of reasons ranging from temporary illness to permanent injury. Sometimes the ability will come back...sometimes it won't. But even if the flag won't go to the top of the flagpole, that doesn't mean that fingers are gone, tongues are dry, and there aren't items that could be used to produce pleasure! So a portion of the problem is thinking of sex as if it only involves a penis...and another portion is thinking of sex with my spouse as if it revolves around ME having an orgasm. Yeah--that is a net result--but on my end I am intimate physically because WE are intimate as a couple and I want to please HIM.

Sooo...I wouldn't accept celibacy open-endedly either. Okay so the soldier doesn't salute. Accept that and move on to fingers, tongues and toys! Just be with each other how you can!

And I wouldn't leave someone only over sex either. If it was just a matter of erectile dysfunction, hey guess what? That happens to EVERY MALE as they age ... at some point. So I'm going to leave my dedicated 75yo husband after all those years of sharing life together because he can't penetrate me? No. That's silly and completely against the promise I made to him.

Now...if other things were breaking down in the marriage, and there was NO physical intimacy or sex was used as a weapon or being withheld, well that's different! I would address those reasons that were causing the break down. In that case the sex is just secondary.
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Thanks AC,

I'm of the belief that the sex slowed down considerably because there was a lot of tension in their relationship due to his unemployment. I feel she lost respect for him for not being gainfully employed but yet she also admitted that he was trying hard to find work. I truly think that she helped to create the sexual vacuum by pressuring him about his employment status and then about the sexual frequency. She then sought to fill that vacuum with another man. By the way, we aren't talking about years of celibacy here. Although she didn't get into specifics she admitted they still were having sex but just not as much in the last several months and not as much as she "required."
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Maybe Morrigan can contact, and encourage her? But yeah, you definitely don't want to counsel her anymore.
No, Morrigan doesn't feel comfortable interacting with her at all. She said she was given more than enough help and support to break her out of her affair. What is it they say about ex smokers being the hardest on people who still light up?
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So he is likely unable to perform now. And maybe permanently. And you are recommending what exactly:
- She accept being celibate open ended
- She should leave him

Why are either of those alternatives superior to the current situation?
Are you saying that cheating is a superior alternative to the other two options?

If so, I have serious concerns about your views on marriage.
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