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Old 03-12-2012, 04:05 PM   #31 (permalink)
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That's ridiculous.
whom my I ask did all the men over the years cheat with?
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I've always wondered; if so many more men cheat, then who are they cheating with? Are there that many more single women out there than men?
A lot of men cheat with single women. In the old days man men had a wife and a mistress. The mistress was a single women who the husband took care of financially... he's set her up in a house or apartment and support her.
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whom my I ask did all the men over the years cheat with?
Prostitutes and mistresses, among others. Just the fact that prostitution is geared almost exclusively to men should be a clue. Those women that followed railroad building camps and army camps around weren't doing it just for their health. Uppercrust society men often had mistresses, and their wives even often knew about it.
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whom my I ask did all the men over the years cheat with?
Are you suggesting single women are above getting it on with a married man?
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whom my I ask did all the men over the years cheat with?
In the past single women.

Remember that in past women would not support themselves. If they were caught cheating they stood to lose their children, their home and their income.. their entire way of life. Plus they were branded as harlots.

When a married women had an affair she was generally thrown out by her husband.

In the past women had few choices in life.. be a wife, a house keeper, a nanny, a postitute or a 'kept woman... a mistress'.
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I'm not suggesting there are no frivolous divorces out there, or wives who wrong their husbands, but it's hardly the epidemic some like to portray. Are wives cheating more? Sure. But study after study shows it's still a relatively small percentage, and still fewer than men.
Remember, most marriages don't end in divorce, and most people don't cheat.
These marriage sites are reporting record growth. The divorce rate is higher than ever. The only issue stopping more couples from divorcing are because they cannot afford it due the economy so they stay separated in the same home.

It is only getting worse and the divorce rate is only increasing.

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The buddy crowd I hang out with are definitely the "Alpha" set, and would ostracize me if they found out my wife cheated on me a second time. Most of them know about the first time she did it, and I still get a load of crap from them for that one. They always ask me why I didn't toss her to the curb that first time. I have not given any of them the particulars about this second time, and I don't plan to.

Don't get me wrong, they are all decent dudes with families of their own, but it is just harder for men to deal with this stuff. We are very akward when it comes to providing emotional stability to each other.
Do you know how many of these male friends of yours have cheated on their wives? I'd be curious to know.
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I'm not suggesting there are no frivolous divorces out there, or wives who wrong their husbands, but it's hardly the epidemic some like to portray. Are wives cheating more? Sure. But study after study shows it's still a relatively small percentage, and still fewer than men.
Remember, most marriages don't end in divorce, and most people don't cheat.
These marriage sites are reporting record growth. The divorce rate is higher than ever. The only issue stopping more couples from divorcing are because they cannot afford it due the economy so they stay separated in the same home.

It is only getting worse and the divorce rate is only increasing.

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Are you suggesting that women are at fault for the increased devorce rate?
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They don't hate all men they just hate you and your friends.
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I'm not an expert but isn't the cause of someone cheating due to the
cheater feeling like something is missing from their relationship and they
are trying to fulfil a need that they believe is missing or want?

In today's modern world, women being equal to men and what is shown
on TV, cable TV, movies, etc.......the women are just doing what men
have done.

I'm more interested in seeing if the rise in women cheating correlates
to the increase in women in the workplace.

TAM has been a really eye opener for me and I think I'm lucky that nothing happened in my marriage, when I was really into my career and
didn't pay special attention to my wife.
I think that there is a % of cheaters who cheat just because they can or because they feel entitled. They do if no matter how good their marriage is.

Though most infidelity is probably based on the cheater feeling that something is missing in the marriage. The BS most likely also feels that something is missing but does not chose to cheat.

It's my believe that there is a strong correlation between women in the work place and married women cheating. There is more opportunity as they are around more men. AND… the big one IMHO is that the women feel safer cheating as they have more financial independence. If they get caught the do not have to worry so much about how they will live and support their children.
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People cheat because they're not programmed to have successful relationships. Whether there's more of that now than some other time, is anyone's guess. I suspect no but I also think people are getting married where they shouldn't be or are not mature enough or prepared. So it's a self selecting group of candidates ripe for failure.
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I'm starting to get a little irritated by this debate, probably because I've been a faithful wife for over 15 years (over 17 if count when we were dating) and my husband is the one who cheated. In my mind, men are the dirty dogs who cheat more often, but I know I'm biased due to personal experience.

Stats and studies will never truly give us the answer, because they'll have a portion of participants lying. Why would a cheater risk exposure by telling the truth even on a survey? What if it's a trap? There's no way to ever know for sure who is the one cheating more. My guess, it's probably pretty even with both equal parts of dirty dogs and b!tches.
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Are you suggesting that women are at fault for the increased devorce rate?
I think the answer is yes, though I would not use the word fault

Women have more freedom and options now then they did 50 years ago. They have career opportunities and social stigma of being a divorced woman is not nearly as great (if it exists at all). So many women who were forced to stay in a bad marriage (such as an alcoholic husband) 50 years ago now can leave. I think that is good.

Of course, the flip side is that either party can more easily leave for less serious reasons. I think this goes both ways, in that women can leave because they have the freedom or ability, while men feel less financial responsibility for their children or condemnation for leaving them poor because the woman can pay for things. This is not so good.
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I'm not suggesting there are no frivolous divorces out there, or wives who wrong their husbands, but it's hardly the epidemic some like to portray. Are wives cheating more? Sure. But study after study shows it's still a relatively small percentage, and still fewer than men.
Remember, most marriages don't end in divorce, and most people don't cheat.
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These studies recognize that women are more likely to lie about these issues (as well as about other issues related to sex).
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I'm not suggesting there are no frivolous divorces out there, or wives who wrong their husbands, but it's hardly the epidemic some like to portray. Are wives cheating more? Sure. But study after study shows it's still a relatively small percentage, and still fewer than men.
Remember, most marriages don't end in divorce, and most people don't cheat.
These marriage sites are reporting record growth. The divorce rate is higher than ever. The only issue stopping more couples from divorcing are because they cannot afford it due the economy so they stay separated in the same home.

It is only getting worse and th
e divorce rate is only increasing.

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Actually, you're quite wrong. The divorce rate peaked in the early 80s and has been declining ever since. Overall, the divorce rate today is down by about 5 percent since 1996.
Look it up.
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