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Old 03-12-2012, 04:42 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I think there is more evidence that man and women cheat at the same frequency not only today but always.

hell I'll bet back when you say men were cheating more there was no such thing as an emotional affair.

do you think Org the cave man gave a crap if the skinny cave man was telling his wife how good she mends furs.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:42 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Including myself, 3 of my close friends have been cheated on by their wives. All of the men hold jobs, are good fathers, and seem to be somewhat normal guys. From what i know, all of the OM were married and/or unemployed drugies. Is this a growing trend?
Nope not a growing trend. Birds of a feather fly together. You and your friends where too beta and told each other that it was OK to be so. Other alpha males took your wives.

Learn from this for next time. You got hoodwinked by your wife and friends into thinking being a good husband was being beta. Do not repeat that mistake.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:44 PM   #48 (permalink)
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These studies recognize that women are more likely to lie about these issues (as well as about other issues related to sex).
Says who?!?! I'm asking seriously. You're portraying women as conniving b!tches and that's completely ridiculous. Just like portraying men as cheating scumbags is ridiculous.

It's one thing to say "wtf is wrong with wives" to vent steam and leave it at that. We all need to do that once in a while. But to actually try to argue that women are worse cheaters is a bit over the top.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:45 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I think the answer is yes, though I would not use the word fault

Women have more freedom and options now then they did 50 years ago. They have career opportunities and social stigma of being a divorced woman is not nearly as great (if it exists at all). So many women who were forced to stay in a bad marriage (such as an alcoholic husband) 50 years ago now can leave. I think that is good.

Of course, the flip side is that either party can more easily leave for less serious reasons. I think this goes both ways, in that women can leave because they have the freedom or ability, while men feel less financial responsibility for their children or condemnation for leaving them poor because the woman can pay for things. This is not so good.
I have seen stats that say that a large percentage of divorces are filed by women. In the articles I've read there is an assumption usually that women are just being frivolous because it's easy to divorce now.

But I don't think that most of the women are filing for fivolous reasons. I know quite a few divorced women. I only know of 2 that I think left for frivolous reasons.

Many of the women filed because their husbands walked out and they finally filed because their husbands were not going to.. not even when they were living with other women. Some were in abusive marriages. Some were married to cheaters.. many of the husband were serial cheaters.

I filed for divorce before because of serious martial problems, emotional and physical abuse and serial adultery by hubands. But in the statistics I just look like one of those women who is just walking out on her husband.

Numbers do not give the entire picture.
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:48 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Well if 50% more men are cheating than women either they're cheating with other men or those women are bigger ho's than anyone imagined.
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right now someone from this thread is goggling who cheats more man or woman!
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:49 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I personally don't know any women who cheated on men, but two of my neighbors husbands cheated and my own ex h cheated on me several times. My neighbors both worked their marriage out, I left the day I found out. I'm much happier now that I've found someone I fully trust.
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These studies recognize that women are more likely to lie about these issues (as well as about other issues related to sex).
Really? What's your basis for that?
I've seen studies showing men lie more often than women.
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right now someone from this thread is goggling who cheats more man or woman!
I've googled that several times. The stats always say that men do by a few percentage points these days.
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first 3 hit on google indicate women cheat as much if not more.
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If you really dig foe scientific studies they have proven that its always been this way through dna analyisis.
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first 3 hit on google indicate women cheat as much if not more.
can you provide links?
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Including myself, 3 of my close friends have been cheated on by their wives. All of the men hold jobs, are good fathers, and seem to be somewhat normal guys. From what i know, all of the OM were married and/or unemployed drugies. Is this a growing trend? Sad part is, my wife's friends all date deadbeats and ***** and moan about having a good man to raise a family. My wife had it all, and threw it away on a married man.
People are less dependent on each other today, for better or worse (often worse as you've seen). Women today (for example, not that they're worse than men) are far more secure now than they've ever been, financially and socially. So having a good provider at home just means less now because daddy government can always step in if things go south in the marriage. So she feels more secure in exploring outside possibilities, including with men who appeal superficially like the bad boy types you describe, and who could never provide for her or her children. They've really always done this to some extent, and are now catching up with men who've been more secure in our society for a longer time.
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If you really dig foe scientific studies they have proven that its always been this way through dna analyisis.
Huh? You mean because women have other mens kids? And do these studies account for how many women were raped or forced to do it? Incest? That type of thing? There was a lot more of that going on in times past than now - because the men thought it was their right.

And what your first three google hits are totally depends on what you google, you know.
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If you really dig foe scientific studies they have proven that its always been this way through dna analyisis.

can you provide links?

Historical DNA testing does not tell us if the women were married women cheating or single women who got pregnant.
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