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Old 03-16-2012, 08:27 AM   #16 (permalink)
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My wife Morrigan had breast enlargement surgery done a while ago. When she gets out of work I'll try to get her to come on and share her experiences and advice. And for the record, I loved her how she was and although it took a while I love her how she is now. Point is that if someone truly loves you they will learn to accept the flaws as well as the good points.

I'm going to share something private. My wife had two C sections with our last two kids. The last one the doctor really screwed up and she hasn't been able to "flatten" her tummy the way she did previously (her words not mine). The "pouch" as she calls it has bothered her ever since. She talked about having surgery to correct it but I heard so many horror stories I tried to discourage her. Finally after a slightly heated discussion she said to me "I'm hideous, how can you stand to look at me." I got angry and looked her straight in the eye and said "How can you say that? That is where you carried our babies. That is the ultimate in sacrifice of love. I love every stretch mark, every scar, every bump because it shows me how much you love me, our kids and our family. You can fix your tummy if you want but when I look at you I see everything we have shared together. And why would you want to fix that?"
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THAT is how a husband who truly loves his wife talks about her body. He doesn't drop broad hints and make her feel inadequate.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:19 AM   #18 (permalink)
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My wife Morrigan had breast enlargement surgery done a while ago. When she gets out of work I'll try to get her to come on and share her experiences and advice. And for the record, I loved her how she was and although it took a while I love her how she is now. Point is that if someone truly loves you they will learn to accept the flaws as well as the good points.

I'm going to share something private. My wife had two C sections with our last two kids. The last one the doctor really screwed up and she hasn't been able to "flatten" her tummy the way she did previously (her words not mine). The "pouch" as she calls it has bothered her ever since. She talked about having surgery to correct it but I heard so many horror stories I tried to discourage her. Finally after a slightly heated discussion she said to me "I'm hideous, how can you stand to look at me." I got angry and looked her straight in the eye and said "How can you say that? That is where you carried our babies. That is the ultimate in sacrifice of love. I love every stretch mark, every scar, every bump because it shows me how much you love me, our kids and our family. You can fix your tummy if you want but when I look at you I see everything we have shared together. And why would you want to fix that?"
I hope your comments were received better than mine. My wife has almost the exact same issue (three c-sections for her), and while she has now quit bringing up a stomach tuck, I feel like she does not quite believe me.
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:30 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Oh no, that's not right! You (I assume) managed to breastfeed three beautiful children. He should marvel at your commitment give HIS children best start in life, not complain that they're saggy! So first he goes off with somebody else with bigger tits, then he has the b alls to complain about yours? Hmmmm..... I don't know. Don't let your self-image keep you with this man. He sounds like an unthankful, self absorbed douche. You are worth so much more than that.
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THAT is how a husband who truly loves his wife talks about her body. He doesn't drop broad hints and make her feel inadequate.
COMPLETELY agree with this.
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Beowulf, you are clearly 'the man' and IMO Blueskies' hubby would have a lot to learn from you.

Blueskies, I would advise to search your soul before you through with it and be sure that it's not because of misplaced self-esteem. You may do this and then find yourself not any happier.
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That's why Hubs does. My 2nd baby ruined my belly with stretch marks. I was HUGE! but he runs his fingers over them and says he likes them...that they remind him of how I grew our child in my belly and it was all from love. It used to bother me when he'd touch them, from my own insecurities, but now I like it. He does it randomly, like when we're watching TV. he just likes to feel them.

I like feeling beautiful to him.
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I hope your comments were received better than mine. My wife has almost the exact same issue (three c-sections for her), and while she has now quit bringing up a stomach tuck, I feel like she does not quite believe me.
They were. She does still bring it up from time to time but not in a serious manner. When she does I just give him the raised eyebrow and go kiss her belly. Of course that usually leads somewhere wonderful and the subject is dropped. I think she uses it sometimes to get me going. It's ok, I don't need much of a kick-start anyway.
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That's why Hubs does. My 2nd baby ruined my belly with stretch marks. I was HUGE! but he runs his fingers over them and says he likes them...that they remind him of how I grew our child in my belly and it was all from love. It used to bother me when he'd touch them, from my own insecurities, but now I like it. He does it randomly, like when we're watching TV. he just likes to feel them.

I like feeling beautiful to him.
It sounds like your husband feels just like me. My Morrigan is beautiful and she always will be.
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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It really pisses me off when I see commercials for things like stretch mark lotion and wrinkle cream. I admit I am a bit of a fanatic when it comes to NOT using highly overpriced questionably effective concoctions for making myself look younger. I have never even dyed my hair. I rarely wear any make up, I only comb my hair out when I wash it in the shower (which is every 3-4 days - I have long curly hair that can't be combed or brushed or it looks like an electric bush) and cosmetic surgery is not something I would consider in my wildest dreams. But really - advertising plays a HUGE part in women feeling unattractive and inadequate.

My hubby loves me, grey hair, saggy belly, wrinkles, national geographic boobs and all. And if he didn't I guess I'd just have to find someone who did.
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I don't know. In my opinion.

Boob jobs = martial problems and divorce.

I've seen too many threads on guys that let there wives get boob jobs because they wanted to get them for their husbands. That's kinda a half truth. Yeah it's for them AND every other guy on the planet.

Guys would write that his wife turned from the cute "girl next door" That was happy in jeans, sweatshirt and ball cap with a ponytail out the back to paint on jeans and blouses with plunging v-necks down to the naval just to go to the grocery store. Or shirts sooo tight that if the inhale too quickly they'll bust the seams.
And that they've become major flirts and love the attention they get from other men, which leads to more dangerous waters.
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I don't know. In my opinion.

Boob jobs = martial problems and divorce.

I've seen too many threads on guys that let there wives get boob jobs because they wanted to get them for their husbands. That's kinda a half truth. Yeah it's for them AND every other guy on the planet.

Guys would write that his wife turned from the cute "girl next door" That was happy in jeans, sweatshirt and ball cap with a ponytail out the back to paint on jeans and blouses with plunging v-necks down to the naval just to go to the grocery store.
And that they've become major flirts and love the attention they get from other men, which leads to more dangerous waters.
That's a good point. If you've spent thousands on something, hiding it isn't what's gonna happen.
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Ok, this is my first post. I have followed everything for a while but Beowulf says things better than I do so I let him speak for us usually. However, this topic is something I can speak directly about.

I got implants back in 2004. My hubby did not encourage me to and I'm really not sure he even wanted me to. He was supportive though and talked me through a lot of the concerns and questions that needed addressing. In the end I decided to do it...for me. I had never liked my boobs and always wanted to "fix" them but wanted to wait until I was done having children. Am I sorry I got them? No. But if I had to do it over again I would definitely think twice. I ended up getting an infection and had to have one implant removed until it was treated. So for several months I went around with one implant in and on the other side I wore a prosthesis so I'd look even. Then I had to have the surgery to put the implant (well a new one) back in. So I ended up having two surgeries and a difficult recovery. That's what you need to be aware of. It's not a simple procedure and things can go wrong. You really need to think it over before you decide to have the surgery. If you do it for someone other than yourself you will resent them for it.

What Beowulf said about my "pouch" is true. He did tell me that he loves my tummy just as it is. I cried. Sometimes he says things that just make me melt. Sometimes I think I don't deserve him and then I think what the hell of course I do. lol

And crossbar, you are right. I went through a period when I wanted to dress extremely sexy and show off my new assets. Hubby reigned me in quick and let me know how he felt about that. It is very tempting to show off too much after "fixing" something that you despised about yourself all your life. That's why I say you should think twice about doing something like this. It can change you if you're not careful.
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If I could, if I was able to without mental issues, etc, I would have a few things fixed LOL

My breasts. I do like my boobs, but I'd like to have bigger ones for a while. But just a while. So I could never have a boob job. I'll just get a stuffable bra LOL

I'd love to get my chin done. I'm not heavy, neither were my parents, but they BOTH had that wobble on the chin and I'm starting to get it too!! UGH! Thanks for that, Mom and Dad! LAME!

I'd like to have my Irish arms fixed. But...I should just lift weights instead LOL
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And crossbar, you are right. I went through a period when I wanted to dress extremely sexy and show off my new assets. Hubby reigned me in quick and let me know how he felt about that. It is very tempting to show off too much after "fixing" something that you despised about yourself all your life. That's why I say you should think twice about doing something like this. It can change you if you're not careful.
No disrespect, but I know I'm right. If guys could get silicon implants to the front of their pants. I would be walking around in Speedo's in the middle of December!
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