Shaggy

Btw you respond to the reading snooping statement with: in marriage you don't have secrets like that. You don't have secret male friends and ongoing secrets with them.
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keko

Try brickhouse security.
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YPbPr

I'm looking at the Super TrackStick. Any thoughts?

Shaggy

She's playing the game very well.

Dud you try getting onto her laptop with the link posted a few pages back?

I think you just might need to hire a real PI here. Her travelling all the time gives her too much freedom for you to observe yourself.

She's locked down her email , phone, laptop and very effectively cut you out. She frankly may be getting coached on this stuff, there are boards like this for WS that help them pull this off.

A couple of this that have worked for others in the past:

Check out her car for a bag of affair stuff, like clothes, baby wipes, lube etc.
Check out what she's wearing, especially the underwear. Is it nicer when you think she's meeting up with him?
Get a home sperm test kit had check her panties after you think she may have met up.

Frankly, she is doing everything like clock work for someone in an affair.
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lordmayhem

Normally, I'm all for further investigation, especially in cases where there are children involved, financial and property assets on the line, it's a big decision to decide to R or D.

There are huge red flags showing in her behavior, complete with blameshifting, going away for days, heck, you even know the OMs name. Now if you want to continue to investigate, you would do well with hiring a PI too. But considering this is her behavior this early in the marriage?



Cut your losses and run. Seriously. It matters not if you have definitive proof, she's already disrespecting you and the marriage. She certainly doesn't act married at all. Again, she's acting this way so early in the marriage? You've been given a clear image of what the future of your marriage will be like. Add in children and property/assets in the future and see what that looks like.

Let her go now. She's not marriage material, in fact, she's probably not ready for marriage, she just doesn't want to be alone.

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YPbPr

I'm shut out of the laptop.

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She goes to the gym everyday before work so there is her gym bag that contains everything you need. Over the last couple weeks, yes, I would say there were more clothes than normal in there. Like she was bringing options. When I thought they might be meeting last week I noted the better panties and even said hey those looks hot. Today I checked her overnight bag from her trip and I did find two pairs of panties that seemed showy to me. Also, everytime I think they might be meeting up this brand shirt gets put into the bag but never worn. It still has tags. She pulled it out last week and never work it. It was in her overnight bag and again it wasn't worn. There were also brand new matching socks in there, too. She also got her monthly while she was away so maybe she was headed to his place after seeing family and now she's pushed it back b/c she can't get physical?

keko

That's not real time. So you have to remove it everyday to get the logs. Plus its expensive.

Try this it has free service for 3 months, Real Time GPS Car Tracker - 1st 3 Months Free - BrickHouse Exclusive Deal

Shaggy

Everyday before work? Has that been a long standing tradition with her or since she possible met him? I'm wondering if she's using part of gym time to call him or something?

I know he's an hour away, but that's only 1/2 hour each way.
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keko

There are like 3 gym affair threads just in the last few days.... justsayin

YPbPr

Long standing. It's part of her normal routine.

He could be in one two places so here's the breakdown.

First place
90 minutes one way from W's office
90 minutes one way from our home

Second place
60 minutes one way from W's office
60 minutes one way from our home

This is why if I feel that something might be about to go down, it would need to occur around a business meeting which would put by W in one of those two places.

She goes early in the morning and I've checked. She's there. I did get 24hrs of VAR recordings last week and they didn't reveal anything but what she said she was doing. The timings matched up for where she was supposed to be driving and not contact with anyone other than me way made.

Shaggy

Yeah PI this one along with the gps.

All these over nights are real red flags too. This is why you need that PI nd gps soon.
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YPbPr

Real-time GPS has been purchased. FWIW, there hasn't been any overnights other than one confirmed visit to her sis's. There was a planned business overnight that was cancelled and then she planned on going overnight again yesterday (co-worker) but cancelled that too. In both instances she came home.

keko

Let's say she goes somewhere she shouldn't during work hours? WIll you be able to drive there? Have a friend drive there?

I'll remind you once again, if you get a moment with the phone in the open get the back ups. Lock the door if necessary and make up an excuse that you want to hide her phone, she's spending too much time on it, etc.

Shaggy

I wonder if her planned meetings and cancels are scheduling conflicts? Be prepared for the overnight that pops up suddenly and can't be missed.
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YPbPr

Hi everyone. I took a break from posting about my situation. I've been lurking though and reading other people's stories. I've also been continuing to read NGG and research my wife's issues, too.

Quick update: So I've been using the GPS tracking but all reports come in clean. Nothing out of the ordinary. The VAR on a technical level has been hit or miss. Sometimes it records and other times it doesn't. I've probably listened to 3-4 hours of recordings though and haven't heard her talk to anyone other than me. Since the VAR isn't dependable who knows if it's missing the conversation I need to hear.

I did have a big breakthrough though in terms of surveillance and I've achieved access to online bank and credit card records as well as access to her non-work e-mails. It does appear that some sort of cleanup was done and everything checks out here too. I did see one email from OM talking about some daily affirmation website. I was also able to obtain OM's personal e-mail address and his Facebook page (W is friends on FB with OM). Can't get any info from OM's Facebook page since we're not friends but it did give his town location. I cross-referenced his town listing on Facebook with his name on spokeo but there are no matches.

Still trying my damnedest to access her phone. No luck yet.

Wife continues IC and I found some of her notes from those sessions. Too much to get into her but it's probably what you might think: doesn't have emotion/feelings, insecure, need safety, etc. We had our first MC and that was so-so.

Well... Moments ago I got the work needs me to spend an overnight next week. I'm hiring a PI.