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Old 04-27-2012, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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had an argument with another poster thru PM's just today where I held the position that a hard line is always best when dealing with an affair, whether EA or PA (ie. presenting consequences including divorce)

I told him that I haven't seen a story on here where the BS was able to cajole their spouse out of an affair through accepting blame and earnest and honest talk and well...being nice. Just so I am not a complete asshat or just ignorant to alternatives, if anyone here has seen or has indeed revived their marriage through such means, please post it here. I would truly like to know about it and hear about the details.
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Good one--thanks for the funny, AR! Tell that member I said that.

Although I take that back a little. I did sort of nice my husband out of the affair. I changed myself for myself and became a better more loveable version of myself. I changed some things about how I was handling our daily lives and arguments. But I didn't do extra stuff for him that was over-the-top lovey dovey. I call it 'the unwitting 180' because of course I didn't know he was still with her all that time...I didn't know a darn thing about infidelity.

On DD#2, the unwitting 180 had laid everything in place: he walked away from the WS and never looked back. Her parting words, while crying (very satisfying): "What was it all for?!" I got the love of my life back and he is himself and far more attentive than he ever was.

BUT it took 4.5 years, and two DD's 3 years apart, all of which except for 4 weeks he was in the EA.

AND I still had to catch him, he would never have quit on his own and he freely admits that. He knew on DD#2 that I was going to divorce him if he didn't end the affair, in fact he was almost positive that this would be my reaction (he was out of town and had texted me instead of her). And he still trickle-truthed about being in the affair during MC after DD#1, which was nearly as big a shock for me as DD.


Any takers out there for the iheartlife method of getting your husband to end their affair?

***crickets****


I didn't think so.

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Al- I just wanted to reply b/c I have a feeling you won't get one. LOL
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we allreplied at the same time so that doesn't count. Haha
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I spent a lot of time here on the forum, both giving advice and receiving it. There are many different theories, plans, strategies and opinions on how to recover a marriage and all have their merit in one situation or another. But here at this point, I still look back the four words I felt would bring us home. I put those words in my signature line when I officially joined TAM in early 2008. I've never changed them and today still feel they were a primary factor in our recovery.
This was from my final post in that thread. And yes I believe a softer approach can be effective but in more of a mixed bag fashion.

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Wife involved in a LDEA for over a year. Complete disconnect between us was a big factor in the EA. Roommates, low sex, bad communication. EA continued on and off for over a year after D-Day.

Did I do the 180? No
Did I expose? No
Did I demand transparency? No
Did I demand an apology or remorse? No
Did I take a hard ass line with her? No
Did I accept responsibility for my part in making her vulnerable? Yes
Did we recover? Yes
Is the marriage better than it was before? Yes
Does my wife love me? Yes
Does she respect my efforts in recovery? Yes


I will preface this with the statement that I believe in the majority of cases a hard line offers the best chances of recovery. I will also accept that our story is not an anomaly but is probably a vast minority.

There is a time and place for the hard-line and a softer touch. Had I gone the exposure route during the early days of R, dollars to dough-nuts, she'd have walked out on me. I could just about guarantee that. While very early on I made the mistake of doting on her every need and trying to carry the entire blame for it all I came to realize we were regressing instead of moving forward. I'd lost my confidence and she knew that. I then spent a lot of time in self reflection to understand what "amount" of the blame I should accept, how to correct that in a way that improved me and the marriage. I used Love Must be Tough which I believe to be a softer version of the 180 and used it to improve myself and my self image rather than to force her to see I was leaving. I would guess we spent a year rebuilding the foundations of the marriage and this was in a softer mode. Friendship, trust, communication, empathy.....and we made progress. But in the end when she couldn't break off the communications I did take a hard line and laid down an ultimatum. It wasn't a macho kind of thing, it was laid out very factually and ended with, "If it continues, I will leave you." Please note the phrasing. It was not "If you don't end it, I will leave you." There is a very subtle difference there between her continuing and me demanding.

I agree with you AR that you cannot sweet-talk a wayward back out of an affair and back into your arms. But I also believe too many people pull the 180, exposure and other harder tactics out of their quiver first and that can be counterproductive also. Sometimes the situation needs to be stabilized first to determine the correct course of action. Our recover was a bit of a high-bread effort with the majority of efforts from a softer more patient approach.
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Haven't seen that, but I'm here only 8 months yet..
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I'm probably pretty close to that. BTB (my wife for those who haven't found her thread yet) didn't beat me up or take a hard line with me at all, but she didn't have to. I did it all for her. So in my case you can say that a soft approach on her part worked but I was still getting my ass kicked, it was just self inflicted.
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I tried being nice and understanding and loving my husband out of his EA. All it got me was 19 months of limbo, a lot of crushing blows to my self-esteem and three D-days.
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I think it always depends on the personalities involved, but as a matter of course... big fat NO.
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Thank you for sharing that amp, but I do wish to point out you essentially committed yourself to a form of limbo for a year
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Thank you for sharing that amp, but I do wish to point out you essentially committed yourself to a form of limbo for a year
Point taken, but if stabilizing the situation was a factor in the recovery, I'll gladly take it. It was a year well invested.
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Point taken, but if stabilizing the situation was a factor in the recovery, I'll gladly take it. It was a year well invested.

but why are you so certain that the hard line would have ended in D? You've seen others say that and while it is the case at times, it isn't always the case.
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I used Love Must be Tough which I believe to be a softer version of the 180 and used it to improve myself and my self image
But I also believe too many people pull the 180 . . . and other harder tactics out of their quiver first and that can be counterproductive also.
I think the 180 is very misunderstood.

The biggest problem with the 180 is executing it entirely for yourself, your health and well-being, becoming the best person you can be. Essentially, preparing your life for your best ideal--this means, whether you are married or not, to this particular person, or not.

The reason the unwitting 180 worked for me so well (didn't end the affair, but prepped for the ending) is that it was unwitting.

My hats off to those who are forced to use it knowing full well their spouse is still in a full-blown affair or fence-sitting. That's precisely where my husband was, too; I just didn't know it.
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