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Old 05-20-2012, 11:32 AM   #391 (permalink)
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Not saying he should negate it -- but it is not something new for the June trip.

Jerry -- question for you. Was February 2012 the 1st time she wanted to go to the strip club and watch you get a lap dance ??
Yes, it was. Which got me thinking she is feeling guilty and wanted this lap dance as a way of justifying her possible A
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That's why I asked - Another RED flag !! especially with your RED flags from November and December.

In normal converstation - tell her you have picked out the strip show place in NY for the trip in June. In the course of that conversation -- I would ask her why in February see wanted to see you getting a lap dance and observe her carefully. Don't accuse her of anything --- just ask. If she says anthing -- say that was the 1st time you wanted to watch. At least she knows that things still are not right with you and there is something on your mind. Let her have some suspense in her life about you.

In February -- was that the 1st strip place you went to as a couple -- or have you two visited strip places before minus the lap dance ??

I am really jumping here -- but you said your wife has opened up after reading the 50 shades of gray book -- wants to be dominated while still being gentile -- is it possible that her fantasy is to have a 3some with another woman ?? Don't know if you want to approach this or how -- but something has change with her sexual habits recently as you have shared.

God -- I hope I am way off base here and she has never had a EA or PA -- just that you two are communicating better and she is telling you what she likes/wants.
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How do you mean "off with her" ? Do you think she is acting guilty? Hiding something? Insincere? Sorry to hear this. Does she just act wary around you? Could she be worrying about what you are doing?

A normal woman should not offer to let another woman give him a lap dance. I think there is an ulterior motive for this. Like she is wanting to have you do something with another woman. I asked my wife and she doesn't understand a normal woman wanting to do this either. She even suggested your wife may want a three way.

Whatever, for me her wanting to see you getting off with another woman is a gigantic red alert. She could also hold it over your head.
Once again, Chap is very insightful here. I could see her saying, "Well, YOU had the lap dance, REMEMBER?!"
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Once again, Chap is very insightful here. I could see her saying, "Well, YOU had the lap dance, REMEMBER?!"
OMG, that is what she brings up all the time after the vegas trip. She calls it "One word" which means lap dance and says it to me when we start to argue about random things.

I just thought about it and i'm thinking what a Biach, she is trying to control me with the vegas lap dance and justify a possible EA/PA.

I have a totally clear head now after IC, more focused on keeping the change in myself and asserting what NMMNG book is all about. VAR/GPS may prove something in future.

It's taking a lot of energy keeping the focus of her slipping back in to her control freak mode, then me doing NMMNG thing. Why can't she just STFU and enjoy things?!?!?

Today she tried to be controlling, telling me to only mow front lawn while her parents visited and said it would be rude to do lawn while we all just sat on back deck....I mowed the WHOLE damn lawn just for spite!!
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That's why I asked - Another RED flag !! especially with your RED flags from November and December.

In normal converstation - tell her you have picked out the strip show place in NY for the trip in June. In the course of that conversation -- I would ask her why in February see wanted to see you getting a lap dance and observe her carefully. Don't accuse her of anything --- just ask. If she says anthing -- say that was the 1st time you wanted to watch. At least she knows that things still are not right with you and there is something on your mind. Let her have some suspense in her life about you.

In February -- was that the 1st strip place you went to as a couple -- or have you two visited strip places before minus the lap dance ??

I am really jumping here -- but you said your wife has opened up after reading the 50 shades of gray book -- wants to be dominated while still being gentile -- is it possible that her fantasy is to have a 3some with another woman ?? Don't know if you want to approach this or how -- but something has change with her sexual habits recently as you have shared.

God -- I hope I am way off base here and she has never had a EA or PA -- just that you two are communicating better and she is telling you what she likes/wants.

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(2 girls/and me) but NEVER actually said it. I am reaching but she may be at a point in her life that sex and fantasies are really coming in to her mind. That may be a good thing but also a bad thing...

So sick of these mind games with her...wish she would just be a wife to me!!!
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OMG, that is what she brings up all the time after the vegas trip. She calls it "One word" which means lap dance and says it to me when we start to argue about random things.

I just thought about it and i'm thinking what a Biach, she is trying to control me with the vegas lap dance and justify a possible EA/PA.

I have a totally clear head now after IC, more focused on keeping the change in myself and asserting what NMMNG book is all about. VAR/GPS may prove something in future.

It's taking a lot of energy keeping the focus of her slipping back in to her control freak mode, then me doing NMMNG thing. Why can't she just STFU and enjoy things?!?!?

Today she tried to be controlling, telling me to only mow front lawn while her parents visited and said it would be rude to do lawn while we all just sat on back deck....I mowed the WHOLE damn lawn just for spite!!
IMO you were rude with her parents being there. You have to learn when to pick your battles -- I think this was not one to show the new Jerry. Just sounds like a pissed off Jerry !! You could have cut the rest of the grass another time. It's not like the grass is going anywhere.

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IMO you were rude with her parents being there. You have to learn when to pick your battles -- I think this was not one to show the new Jerry. Just sounds like a pissed off Jerry !!
Yeah!!! after the way she said it in front of them. Biach attitude and telling me to hurry up and cook on grill, after coaching my daughters softball game then coming home and her expecting me to get the cookout going all by myself.

I was pissed, same old, same old with her when family/friends are around. Ordering me to do things in front of them.

It so sucks for me to stand up for myself EVERYTIME and that's what shuts her up. I could have easily stuck my tail between my legs and bowed to her commands but not any more!!!!!!!
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Jerry, can you check her pay stubs to see if she had any work day off, from november till now? Keep checking her whereabouts during lunch break or even squeeze in a VAR in her purse.
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IMO you were rude with her parents being there. You have to learn when to pick your battles -- I think this was not one to show the new Jerry. Just sounds like a pissed off Jerry !! You could have cut the rest of the grass another time. It's not like the grass is going anywhere.
I did the grass now since it will be raining here for the next 3 days.

Seriously, it's just an energy draining experience with this woman. 2 weeks she is fine then the weekend it's back to same old.
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Yeah!!! after the way she said it in front of them. Biach attitude and telling me to hurry up and cook on grill, after coaching my daughters softball game then coming home and her expecting me to get the cookout going all by myself.

I was pissed, same old, same old with her when family/friends are around. Ordering me to do things in front of them.

It so sucks for me to stand up for myself EVERYTIME and that's what shuts her up. I could have easily stuck my tail between my legs and bowed to her commands but not any more!!!!!!!
IMO -- It's time to call her out on this tonight when you guys are alone. She said she would try -- but hasn't according to what you wrote. Tell her this is the reason she needs to get to MC ASAP -- before the situation in the marriage gets out of hand.
Don't back down now -- you have a perfect example of exactly what you talked about with her.

BTW -- was she at the game with you and your girls ?
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Jerry, can you check her pay stubs to see if she had any work day off, from november till now? Keep checking her whereabouts during lunch break or even squeeze in a VAR in her purse.
Salary pay....Can't put VAR in purse. Don't worry, something tells me the next few weeks will be a interesting VAR listen...
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IMO -- It's time to call her out on this tonight when you guys are alone. She said she would try -- but hasn't according to what you wrote. Tell her this is the reason she needs to get to MC ASAP -- before the situation in the marriage gets out of hand.
Don't back down now -- you have a perfect example of exactly what you talked about with her.

BTW -- was she at the game with you and your girls ?
I will...

Yes, she was. And even tried to tell me how to coach the girls in front of a few parents. Shot her down very fast on that!!!
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Salary pay....Can't put VAR in purse. Don't worry, something tells me the next few weeks will be a interesting VAR listen...
New work schedule? Travel?
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I did the grass now since it will be raining here for the next 3 days.

Seriously, it's just an energy draining experience with this woman. 2 weeks she is fine then the weekend it's back to same old.
Jerry do you have VAR in the house in the room she talks on the poine ? I asked about her attending the game -- because I don't want to add to your suspicion -- but the scum bag was gone for 2 weeks and got back today. Could she had called him today while you were coaching the game -- and thus the bi-ch attitude when you got back ?? Just wondering !!!
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Jerry do you have VAR in the house in the room she talks on the poine ? I asked about her attending the game -- because I don't want to add to your suspicion -- but the scum bag was gone for 2 weeks and got back today. Could she had called him today while you were coaching the game -- and thus the bi-ch attitude when you got back ?? Just wondering !!!
Good catch. This is possible.
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