Originally Posted by EleGirl

I just want to hug that big dog.

Originally Posted by EleGirl

Do you assume that doing dishes, laundry and cleaning is women's work. Today most women work. Thus there is no woman's work vs men's work.

Originally Posted by iJordan

Basically, that people ignore the fact men and women are different because they want—in some sense of the word—equality. Gender-specific roles may not be as prevalent in modern society, but conceptually they are. It's a shame, but women will often not respect a man in a non-traditional role.

Originally Posted by EleGirl

I doubt that the "hindbrain" has some sort of pre-programming that says dishes are women's work.

As a woman I think I have a pretty good idea of what women expect and find attractive in men.

For example if both spouses work a full time job. She comes home and does all of the house work and he comes home and sits around being 'manly' and not doing his part to pick up the mess he helped to create.... Then over time she will grow to resent him. He is responsible for half the work it takes to maintain their household. He's not a 'real man' if he thinks that he does not have equal responsibilities for household chores.

Another scenario is when a woman is a SAHM and her husband works full time. So for 10 hours a day they are both doing their job.. he's at work and she at home with house keeping and taking care of kids, cooking etc. So they both put in their 10 hour day. Then he comes home, acts 'manly' and eats dinner... and he lets her clean up, take care of kids in the evening... while she puts in a 12-16 hour day... then the same happens each weekend day while he just sits around acting 'manly'. You had better believe that she is going to become very resentful that she is putting in 16 hours days with no help. He's going to want sex from her at the end of her 16 hour day after he's relaxed for the last 6 hours and she's been working. The sex is not going to happen. And he's going to wonder why he's not getting any... like a lot of guys around her say "Gee even if she does not feel like having sex or is tired she should just put out." Ya right.


The issue is if he man is acting like a whim and doing things to kiss a$$ and letting his wife basically push him around. If she's sitting around eating bom boms and watching TV while he comes home from work and does all of the house chores... yep that's a turn off to a woman. A woman will not respect a guy who is like this. This very unattractive to a woman.

To just catagorically tell men that they women do not respect men who 'help' around the house is not doing anyone any good. Like most things it's not black and white. It's very situational.

Originally Posted by warlock07

Makes generalization in a post asking not to make generalizations

Originally Posted by warlock07

Makes generalization in a post asking not to make generalizations


It is just people are people. They can be selfish regardless of the gender

Originally Posted by Count of Monte Cristo

I did all that and my ex cheated. I calculated that I did almost 4000 hours of housework during the 20-plus years that we were together. I naively thought that this would make her happy. Wrong!! She saw me as her maid and lost all attraction for me.

Originally Posted by warlock07

Makes generalization in a post asking not to make generalizations


It is just people are people. They can be selfish regardless of the gender

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

The problem with making generalizations is that there are exceptions to every rule. I mean every rule. The other problem is that everyone thinks they are the exception. "my wife is different," etc.

The prime directive, the blue print as it were, is "Be fruitful and multiply" translated: git it on! If that's not happening for you, you're doing something wrong. Especially in a marriage. Being the maid won't get you laid.

Originally Posted by Count of Monte Cristo

I did all that and my ex cheated. I calculated that I did almost 4000 hours of housework during the 20-plus years that we were together. I naively thought that this would make her happy. Wrong!! She saw me as her maid and lost all attraction for me.