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Old 10-14-2008, 12:45 AM   #31 (permalink)
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what they did was call your bluff, when you said you had all kinds of women and kept your options open.....what they did was call your bluff.

The touchy feely thing is not common with white women, my wife was a NO PDA when we first met. Just some women are touchy feely, some arent.

My guess is she was hitting on you, but you did not read the signs correctly.

If a woman is touching me then I think she wants more (not anymore that I am married, but as a young dude)

You need a little confident boost my friend, you need a good wingman
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:09 AM   #32 (permalink)
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what they did was call your bluff, when you said you had all kinds of women and kept your options open.....what they did was call your bluff.
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The touchy feely thing is not common with white women, my wife was a NO PDA when we first met. Just some women are touchy feely, some arent.
And that's the difficult part. Is she like this with other men? Or only to me?
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My guess is she was hitting on you, but you did not read the signs correctly.
It's quite possible, but then again ...
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If a woman is touching me then I think she wants more (not anymore that I am married, but as a young dude)
I've been in this situation before where I THINK a woman is interested in me, or that my gut is telling me that she likes me, but then I'm completely wrong.
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You need a little confident boost my friend, you need a good wingman
Confidence would help if I actually got results, but for the past 10+ years, it's been downhill with women.
Maybe I can pay someone to be a wingma for me, like on Craigslist?
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:52 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Bluff...like in cards, you bet high even though you have a bad hand, hoping the other person will believe you.

You said you were playing the field with Numerous women...when you're not, they caught onto you and played you.

You really think to much here, make your move, you are to worried about offending the women, if you go over the line they will surely let you know.

would you rather Crash and Burn or never be in the race?

It is funny had my 20 year reunion in July, ran into allot of old friends, female ones especially, many of them I was good friends with back in HS, ONLY to find out at the reunion they all had crushes because I was decent looking and a nice guy.....Yet I had Zero self confidence to ask the women out becuase I thought they were friends, they they were not interested, they I would step over my boundries, when to make my move...I thought way to much instead of just reacting and doing it......If I only knew back in the day.

Do you have any good male friends that you hang out with? My friends love me as a wingman, becuase I am married and I often start the conversation with a group of women just out of the blue, once the women find out I am married...they (the guys) swoop in for the kill...LOL I just sit back and relax, also my drinks are paid for by my friends...
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:02 AM   #34 (permalink)
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My uncle has also told me that I think way too much. I just can't help it because that's the way I am, whether I'm at work or sitting at home. I'm a computer programmer, I need to think!

I know that I should at least be "crashing and burning" out there, but the self-conscious and defensive side of me won't let me go that far. I've been rejected so many times that it is actually hurtful. Contrary to what people say, rejection does NOT get easier. It only reinforces my negative views about myself and makes me question myself. Particularly right now since I got a new job, a promotion, and have these 2 nice women who treated me out (maybe only as friends). I just don't want to ruin something if this is the best as it gets.

I do not have any good male friends my age. I hang around with "old farts". I'm 28, and most of these guys are in their 40's and 50's. The reason they are older is because I like to play classical music, chess, and golf with them. Those are my buddies, and I always joke about how old they are.
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Old fart, huh. Well, right there you must look better than they do.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:39 PM   #36 (permalink)
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They are well aged men, and I wouldn't mind looking like them when I get to that age. One of them is gay and he takes care of himself really well. The other is okay looking and he has a beautiful wife! The catch? He's a wealthy University professor so he has status, fame, and $$$!
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They are well aged men, and I wouldn't mind looking like them when I get to that age. One of them is gay and he takes care of himself really well. The other is okay looking and he has a beautiful wife! The catch? He's a wealthy University professor so he has status, fame, and $$$!
How about G. Ireland a short, average guy with an average job. Met his now wife when he worked for BK. Nothing special about him other than his humor. There are a million guys you never hear from or about BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT RICH.

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Old 10-14-2008, 11:53 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I agree with Drac...My wife is smoking Hot, she really loves me due to my corky personality, I am a goof ball and she LOVES that. She has been with me when i was dirt poor, so money was no issue and to this day she makes more money then I do.
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:21 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I don't want to digress too much since I started another thread on looks, money, and power. So, if it wasn't money, then was it because of your looks and/or power? Women are attracted to SMP-Sex, money, and power! That's not to say that will guarantee you a long and lasting relationship, but having SMP will surely help you meet women and increase your odds to find a partner. I don't have looks (sex) or the power (status), but I can work on money by working hard and saving. In some cases, having money can increase your status. Now, tying this into my 2 women friends situation, I need to show the younger one I like that I'm saving up and planning to buy a car in the next few years. Right now she's a starving pre-medical student trying to get into medical school.
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I don't want to digress too much since I started another thread on looks, money, and power. So, if it wasn't money, then was it because of your looks and/or power? Women are attracted to SMP-Sex, money, and power! That's not to say that will guarantee you a long and lasting relationship, but having SMP will surely help you meet women and increase your odds to find a partner. I don't have looks (sex) or the power (status), but I can work on money by working hard and saving. In some cases, having money can increase your status. Now, tying this into my 2 women friends situation, I need to show the younger one I like that I'm saving up and planning to buy a car in the next few years. Right now she's a starving pre-medical student trying to get into medical school.
You'll never get her, and sad still is you'll never know why.

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I agree with Drac...My wife is smoking Hot, she really loves me due to my corky personality, I am a goof ball and she LOVES that. She has been with me when i was dirt poor, so money was no issue and to this day she makes more money then I do.
Good to know I'm not the only goof ball on this forum.
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I agree with Drac...My wife is smoking Hot, she really loves me due to my corky personality, I am a goof ball and she LOVES that. She has been with me when i was dirt poor, so money was no issue and to this day she makes more money then I do.
I use to make four times as much money as the wife, now she makes about twice what I do. But she never knew what I made until after we were married.

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I use to make four times as much money as the wife, now she makes about twice what I do. But she never knew what I made until after we were married.

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Then you know it wasn't money she married you for.

Hmm.. what did she marry you for?

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Just had a thought about my situation with the 2 women. Since I like the younger women, is it possible that the older woman is trying to hook me up with the younger woman?
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So I am making progress in that I have a brunch date with the younger girl this Sunday. Kind of nervous about it and not sure what to talk about. How do I let her know that I'm interested in her without being too forward or making it awkward? Hurdling over the friendship line is always my problem. For example, can I ask her why a great girl like her is still single?

I got her a little funny inside-joke gift (a Sarah Palin pin) to give to her on Sunday. I think she will like it.
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