Oh so thats a usual place and things to do for a date? even if you are over the 20?
It sounds cool, but i thought that you will first do that kind of things when the 2 are really together as bf and gf, not in the first phase.. Also i thougth a good thing to suggest doing that will be while talking together face to face and saying " oh what do you say about going out for an ice cream on wendesday? I know a place..."
Maybe thats cause i am older, and i am not used to that kind of ice cream dating.. LOL
i love ice creams so i wont have said no, but thats me..
I wouldn't make an entire date out of it, but we have a local place with great icecream where I live. I don't think there was a single girl I dated since living in my city I didn't bring there early on. As long as it was summer that is.
I feel a little better having slept through all of this. She basically told me that her sister was coming over and that she had plans that day. Her sister lives pretty close by.
I live in the Bay Area near San Francisco so there are a lot of things to do around here. The ice cream place is more like a cute little 50's diner with amazing ice cream and sundaes. I thought it would be a cute little place.
I should ask her out on a real date to a nice place, but I'm just scared of getting rejected, or that she is unintentionally giving me the wrong message that she is interested.
Plus there is one other variable which I never mentioned. She once in awhile mentions this guy named "Bob". I'm not sure if that's her boyfriend or friend. I wanted to ask her who this guy was on the brunch date, but I felt like it would be too nosy. For example, when she took me out for my birthday, she was concerned about me driving home a little tipsy. So, she said, "Me and Bob can drive you home...". She has a male roommate, but his name isn't Bob. So who's Bob???? With my luck, it's probably her boyfriend. This has happened to me before where a girl fails to tell me she has a boyfriend until much later, yet they still let me pay for lunch/dinner. I sometimes feel cheated by that, but I guess it's fair game when I don't ask ...
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I feel a little better having slept through all of this. She basically told me that her sister was coming over and that she had plans that day. Her sister lives pretty close by.
I live in the Bay Area near San Francisco so there are a lot of things to do around here. The ice cream place is more like a cute little 50's diner with amazing ice cream and sundaes. I thought it would be a cute little place.
I should ask her out on a real date to a nice place, but I'm just scared of getting rejected, or that she is unintentionally giving me the wrong message that she is interested.
Plus there is one other variable which I never mentioned. She once in awhile mentions this guy named "Bob". I'm not sure if that's her boyfriend or friend. I wanted to ask her who this guy was on the brunch date, but I felt like it would be too nosy. For example, when she took me out for my birthday, she was concerned about me driving home a little tipsy. So, she said, "Me and Bob can drive you home...". She has a male roommate, but his name isn't Bob. So who's Bob???? With my luck, it's probably her boyfriend. This has happened to me before where a girl fails to tell me she has a boyfriend until much later, yet they still let me pay for lunch/dinner. I sometimes feel cheated by that, but I guess it's fair game when I don't ask ...
Text her and ask. Write you understand if its to privy "but you mentionmed a Bob many time and i would like to hear if he is your bf?"
that way you will know and.. side bonus.. she will know that you are interested in her that way, without you having to say it.. so go for it.. h"י btw, whos that bob you tlak about so often? is it your bf?" (could be her brother you never know) but ask her directly Learn to be more direct.
An ice cream is fine, we just go for coffee or a glass of wine here.. but if its usual then its al fine and honnestly, i found it more funny.
1a) you ask her out and she says no -- No date, no love.
1b) You ask her for a date she says yes -- Date, maybe love.
2) You don't ask her -- No date, no love.
The way I see it you have nothing to lose.
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Good points, but here's my take on it, and it's all out of defense mode:
1a) you ask her out and she says no = no date, no love, my ego is hurt, and I lose a contact
1b) you ask her for a date she says yes = victory
2) you don't ask her = no date, no love, ego is protected, and nobody gets "hurt". This is a very neutral option.
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Ashley: Yes, I am very curious to see who this Bob guy is. I will wait for the right time to ask her. I don't want to text her out of thin air. She is hosting an election day party on Nov. 4th and she invited me. Maybe I will ask her then, or maybe I will get to meet this Bob guy!
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Just like the gym, no pain no gain. So what if 50 girls turn you down and 49 just are not the right one as long as you find that one that is a good fit.
Good points, but here's my take on it, and it's all out of defense mode:
1a) you ask her out and she says no = no date, no love, my ego is hurt, and I lose a contact
1b) you ask her for a date she says yes = victory
2) you don't ask her = no date, no love, ego is protected, and nobody gets "hurt". This is a very neutral option.
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Ashley: Yes, I am very curious to see who this Bob guy is. I will wait for the right time to ask her. I don't want to text her out of thin air. She is hosting an election day party on Nov. 4th and she invited me. Maybe I will ask her then, or maybe I will get to meet this Bob guy!
I am very glad for you cheewaga!
its not that many days and it will give you time to digest the last meeting and to prepare for that one.. and there will be more people there, so its kind of easier to mingle. If Bob is her date then you will know for sure and who knows? you might meet your soulmate at that party! LOL
But do ask her, if not, ask this Bob if you are presented to him. Just say, "So, you and XXX are together?".. and you will know. Maybe he will laugh and say "No, we are just friends" or, "its my sister".. but unless you see the 2 actualy kissing french kiss, dont assume anything.
I am sure and certain that this is a winner..
You are coming closer, and her inviting you there is probably calculated with her gfss. you know girls.. she think its you who only want it on friend level but isnt sure, you ask for ice cream, but she had soemehting to attend to that day, so their friends said to her, "look, lets make an election party and invite the guy, that way if he is only in for friendship it will be ok and if he want more you will have the night to found out and it will be at your place" .. Already this, that she directly invite you at her place, to defross you.. is probbaly her gf ideas too. "How could we get the guy less stiff?"
She is taking the initiativ, but the next move is yours.. the ball is on your camp chewaga..
Also remeember, its more hurtfull to wait in the unknown than actualy doing it and knowing. Take it as exciting instead of frightening.
She is a human being like you you know..
She dont want to get hurt either.
Do not hesitate to take her by the wrist whenever you will feel like doing it. Even if there is other people around.
You will know when, simply when you feel like it.
And please, dont blow that one by keeping you and your feelings behind bars and thinking too much about your next move: RELAXX!..
You've been doing time for long enough now..
Rewind your youth and acting on the spur of the moment.. you will see, thats really fun!
Ashley: it is that type of thinking that gets my hopes up, and then quickly crushes it. Yes, it SOUNDS like a great plan that this girl and her friend thought up, but I highly doubt that that is the case. It just sounds like a party and they need bodies there to make it alive. That's what my gut tells me.
BUT, I did text her today with a little flirty message saying, "hey good looking, what's cooking? so what's going on with the party on Tuesday?" She texted back and said she was making cookies and that she's still trying to work out the logistics for the party. That is all.
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Ashley- that wasn't funny, it's the truth. Haven't you ever thought someone was all that and a bag of chips, and come to find out, he wasn't? More like a pile of
Ashley: it is that type of thinking that gets my hopes up, and then quickly crushes it. Yes, it SOUNDS like a great plan that this girl and her friend thought up, but I highly doubt that that is the case. It just sounds like a party and they need bodies there to make it alive. That's what my gut tells me.
BUT, I did text her today with a little flirty message saying, "hey good looking, what's cooking? so what's going on with the party on Tuesday?" She texted back and said she was making cookies and that she's still trying to work out the logistics for the party. That is all.
Well, she did text you back, and even if she didn't flirt back, she got the message, if you know what I mean.
Ashley- that wasn't funny, it's the truth. Haven't you ever thought someone was all that and a bag of chips, and come to find out, he wasn't? More like a pile of
I didnt get that honey, what are we talking about here?
Re: 2 girls taking me out - boy toy???
she think its you who only want it on friend level but isnt sure, you ask for ice cream, but she had soemehting to attend to that day, so their friends said to her, "look, lets make an election party and invite the guy, that way if he is only in for friendship it will be ok and if he want more you will have the night to found out and it will be at your place" .. 
