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Old 07-29-2012, 06:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 9 year old boy who's behaviour is starting to become very out of character.

He is being really nasty, rude, disrespectful.

We havn't got a clue what has triggered it this weekend but I have taken away his skateboard, bike, PS3, scooter.

And it doesn't seem to bother him AT ALL.

I don't lose it and go off at him I basically just told him this behaviour isn't on and if continues he will lose his toys etc.

He continued and lost his things.

Normally he is a good polite kid.

I have questioned him in a civil manner as to whats going on.
And he can't give me an answer.

He lives with his mother who always talks badly about me 9 nights a fortnight and I get him 5 nights.

My daughter/his full blood sister is very well behaved most of the time.

But this is well out of character.

I know you all don't have a crystal ball but perhaps he's at that age where he is testing his boundaries.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How long have you been separated/divorced?

Children test the limits all the time. Maybe he's just making sure that they still exist. He has different rules in different houses. This can be confusing for a child.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The only thing I can think of is something I recently brought up to my mom in a conversation about our household and it's occupants.

I explained to her that, every time she "vents" or goes off at one of us (her kids) about her boyfriend, his kids, any of that her using them to get her frustration out, her directing that negative energy to them fuels a fire that then transfers to everyone in the house. i.e. if she's mad at her boyfriend for xyz, which ever of my brothers she vented to now holds xyz against him, and it comes out in how they suddenly treat him. I can take her words and frustrations and be the sounding wall, and NOT turn it into anything but they can't, and it has just fueled a war between sides in our house that's unbearable at times.

I've always been the child that can do that for mom, some can, some can't. My brothers can't, they go into defense mode.

my point is, if your ex is spending that much time talking negatively about you, it's probably directly influencing your son's behavior. Your daughter might be able to shrug it off more, or take it as it is and leave it alone, where as your son can't. He could be holding her words against you and holding some sort of blame against you for whatever it is she has said, and he's not going to tell you that.

Frankly, if that is the case, just make sure you speak nothing harshly about his mother to him, and she needs to handle herself more responsibly. but that's just my 2 cents.
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How long have you been separated/divorced?

Children test the limits all the time. Maybe he's just making sure that they still exist. He has different rules in different houses. This can be confusing for a child.
2 and half years now.

I think the taking the toys away has worked this past weekend.

He promised me last night he wouldn't be rude or nasty anymore.

We'll see how long it lasts before he tests the boundaries again.
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How do you know that your ex badmouths you a lot around the children?
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I know she talks ill of me because both my son and daughter have told me, without solicitation.

I think the hardest part is that I want to help him, but he won't open up to me or my new partner(of 2 years), we just keep getting a brick wall or "I dunno". We have tried everything. How can we get him to open up, or do we just leave it and reassure him that we are here for him?

BTW this hasn't been an issue for about 6 months, it's almost like something happened from the last time he was at our house to when he returned.

I have thought about calling his mum to discuss it and try to resolve it together, however based on the last 2.5 years, I really don't think that she can have an adult rational conversation with me.

Any guidance would be appreciated.
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Another thing my 9 year old does is draw pictures of people getting killed. Is this an anger or frustration thing?

I ask him what the pictures are and he tells me then laughs and waits for my reaction.
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As long as he is a boy that's quite usual. Personally i used to draw complete battle scenes about that age. As long as he doesn't like to hurt people or animals its all good.
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As long as he is a boy that's quite usual. Personally i used to draw complete battle scenes about that age. As long as he doesn't like to hurt people or animals its all good.
No he doesn't want to hurt people or animals but just enjoys drawing people dieing, lots of blood etc. Perhaps they are kinda like a battle scene some of them.
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Well for starters I would investigate whether he has got into any chemicals. Kids that age tend to start snuffing things like household chemicals or taking pills that aren't meant for them.

Another issue is whether he has been playing or watching any kind of new violent media.

And finally, since it's summer, has he been cut off from his usual social contacts/friends/hobbies/venues and does he have the opportunity to play sports especially if he usually does this during the school year.

I'd also just sit down and ask him, what can you do to make his life easier, because it seems like he is frustrated about something, and give him the chance to tell you exactly what it is he needs.
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No he doesn't want to hurt people or animals but just enjoys drawing people dieing, lots of blood etc. Perhaps they are kinda like a battle scene some of them.
That's too funny. When my son was that age he used to draw the battle scenes.. usually space ship battles with huge ugly space creatures. And yes all the blood....

He was in Catholic school for first grade. One day they had an assignment (in class) to draw a nativity scene. Well when I picked up my son that day a very perplexed teacher showed me my son's drawing... he drew the vampire holy family in the stable.

What can I say?
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Another thing my 9 year old does is draw pictures of people getting killed. Is this an anger or frustration thing?
As long as you're taking away all his toys, take away any sharp objects and hide all the kitchen knives and other cutting tools.

And don't give them back.
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Another thing my 9 year old does is draw pictures of people getting killed. Is this an anger or frustration thing?

I ask him what the pictures are and he tells me then laughs and waits for my reaction.
What you might want to do it to take him to a play therapist. They will let him play, draw, etc and from observing him can tell a lot about what is ogin on with him.
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No he doesn't want to hurt people or animals but just enjoys drawing people dieing, lots of blood etc.
Sounds like your typical sweet 9 year old kid.

I wouldn't worry about it.

Unless he swaps out ink with real blood.
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I would say something is going on at school/day care.

Maybe he's being bullied and has no outlet and no one is helping. Maybe he hasn't asked for help.

in my classroom (5th grade), these sudden changes were either peer related, or home related. usually the child feels out of control of the situation so acts out.

Mom has a bf? Could be struggles with him. Kids are intuitive and catch on to things about people before us adults see it.

The pictures of people dying and being killed...does he see graphic material at your house or his mom's? Is he angry at someone-- peer or family? This is his outlet because he obviously can't control the situation that is bothering him.

Have a deep talk with him. He's 9...9 year olds are smart and know a ton. Ask him about any situations with friends/kids.

The way a child internalizes something is completely different from how adults do it. Also, what we adults may not think of as a big deal, can really effect a child.

Good luck and be calm. have a man to man talk. Treat him like a little man...He's close to puberty...My 10 year old boys and 11 year old boys are FULL of rage and it's typically regarding hormones and situations they cannot control.
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