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post #31 of 128 (permalink) Old 01-31-2014, 01:15 PM
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I saw this one coming...

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Novella got a perma ban?

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Must admit I came here looking to find MY name since Mr. Blunt (tip of the hat to you, sir) said I was even MORE BLUNT than him!

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I have to admit to sniggering when I read this. A thread on harsh posters and Slowly looks in to see if her name was in it.

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post #38 of 128 (permalink) Old 02-01-2014, 04:59 PM
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My thanks to those who supported me.

I do think that much of this was taken out of context, but that was the point of the thread, I think. It was basically to embarrass or my apology to Novella in another thread might have been accepted. It came shortly before this, when I realised she was hurt by my comment.

Originally, I was just looking to debate in P & R. I've found it interesting, challenging and educational. I really like it, most of the time. I will, challenge the thinking of some. You can find that in my latest posts in that area. Sometimes, it comes off a little too, snarky. Sometimes, I just ask a question and it comes of snarky. There is no way to know what the reader is thinking or what will trigger them.

After this happened, I thought I'd investigate the username, "NovellaBiers". I found that it relates to a character in a novella of the series of vampire books. I forget the guy's first name, but his last name is, "Biers". He is a helper of the main or one of the main characters. His job is to seek out new recruits and trick them into coming to the main vampire and being converted. This, "Biers", character in the book, is secretly in love with the main character, but I don't believe the main vampire character is homosexual. It's a bit of a story within a story of, "unrequited love".

Anyway, I thought that was interesting, but have no idea if it has any bearing in this case, until I thought about some of the things I said in the thread. I had no idea, at the time, how those things would be taken or that there was a connection. I truly, at that point was just, "breaking stones", with a member who I considered to be one of the better ones at breaking stones. Men may understand that term better than women, but NovellaBiers certainly seemed to understand the concept, quite well.

She made reference to her posts as being jokes and no one was, "getting it". Hence, the ensuing, "stone breaking". I personally, thought that it was all in fun, at that point and didn't realise how much she, or possibly he was hurt. Reference my post after Novella posted the song by, "Rick Astley", which was disguised with a different title. Novella is a master at deception and drawing out weaknesses and diverting threads by comments which are as insightful as they are inflammatory. I give her/him credit for being very intelligent.

At first, I thought NovellaBiers really did need help. I thought she was truly possibly a survivor of the sect she referenced. I know she posted a joke by Sarah Silverman, but that didn't stop me from trying to keep the tone more serious. I truly was intrigued by the thoughts and though it might be fun to read someone else's opinions. After all, P & R is for challenging inflammatory topics and discussing them.

So, at some point, after offering to help her, because at that point, I truly was not certain if she was still joking or was serious about some abusive situations she personally went through or new someone going through them, I asked if she needed help and stated that I thought it was a horrible practice. All I read was leading me to believe she wanted to be unclear to control. I didn't like that and kept reading, becoming more interested in learning about how some folks will trick others and lead conversations to disparage others.

Well, in the end, she/he just wanted to converse with Interlocutor. I truly needed to get the hell out of there, but my curiosity killed me. I was never truly hateful intentionally, with her/him. Although, I was breaking stones with the best of them and it can be taken that way. In the last post of hers/his, I thought Novella was trying to accuse me of something that was certainly untrue, so that she/he could follow me and make it look like I was the one following her. Yes, she/he is certainly that intelligent. I then came back, and made that last remark that she/he is less than worthy of stalking and I am definitely not interested, nor ever was in doing so.

There was a comment made by NovellaBiers about, "never letting go". That one bothered me a great deal. I don't know if that is still there. It really doesn't matter, at this point.

In any case, I didn't apologize right away, because I didn't think there was an issue. I thought, and still do, that NovellaBiers was breaking stones for fun. I just think she/he realized she was losing a verbal sparring match and tried to turn it around so as to, "save face".

Anyway, NovellaBiers, nor hard feelings. I apologize for hurting your feelings. That was one of the reasons I posted serious statements. I wanted to know if you were breaking stones or not.

So, some of the other stuff, like being a redhead, was from a comment NovellaBiers made about looking like Lucille Ball, after Interlocutor made a comment. Rick Astley's hair being red in that video made me laugh and comment that way.

The boob comment was not about someone with cancer. NovellaBiers had posted something about masturbation being a sin and some sects would actually cut off breasts or probe a penis. When she commented enough that made me realise she was breaking stones is when I added that to my comment and it had absolutely nothing to do with cancer victims. That wasn't even a part of that discussion, to my knowledge. If a post was changed to reflect her accusation, I have no idea. I haven't seen that. I do think there were some posts of her's deleted, which misrepresents the whole context of the banter.

Here is the banter in another thread, right after this P & R issue. The member, Blonde, who admitted and aplogised for taking the thread off track, was conversing with me and other members and Novella came in and made, yet another inflammatory post. You'll have to go back further in the thread to understand more about what was going on. Also, you'll have to look at Granny7's thread. I'm not sure it's around any more. It's not the one in, "private". It was one in CWI, I think or another more public area. Blonde knew I was involved in that one. You would have to notice the posting times to see why I thought NovellaBiers was just posting to be inflammatory and dig at me. I had just come from the P & R thread, not long before.

Here are a couple of links, if you decide to look.

Wife's past destroying my peace of mind...

Wife's past destroying my peace of mind...

Wife's past destroying my peace of mind...

Anyway, NovellaBiers, whether you are a man or a woman, as your profile suggests, it makes no difference to me. I only related that so others might understand my thoughts. I have no way of confirming any of that. Your posts made me more suspicious than anything.

So, once again, sorry I hurt your feelings. I'm sorry you were banned. I didn't turn you in. You turned yourself in with this thread, I think. Other than that, I have no idea. I wish you were more open. All three of us may have had an interesting discussion.

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post #39 of 128 (permalink) Old 02-01-2014, 05:06 PM
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Just wanted to add something. There were no drugs or alcohol involved in any of this, for me. I don't know about anyone else.

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2ntnuf,

I decided to look over her/his posts, to see if there were any signs that s/he was reaching out, had a story to tell, wanted to engage in debate etc.

S/he started off pretty normal, but about halfway through s/he just seemed to be looking for controversy.

She had a go at Simply Amorous, which is like putting kittens in a bag and driving down to the river bank IMO.

S/he was just yanking our chains, I think it was a fella TBH.

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2ntnuf,

I decided to look over her/his posts, to see if there were any signs that s/he was reaching out, had a story to tell, wanted to engage in debate etc.

S/he started off pretty normal, but about halfway through s/he just seemed to be looking for controversy.

She had a go at Simply Amorous, which is like putting kittens in a bag and driving down to the river bank IMO.

S/he was just yanking our chains, I think it was a fella TBH.
2nt, don't trouble yourself. Novella subtracted from this forum, never added. I mean Sheeshe, anyone who would have a go at SA....? She had a go at me shortly after she joined. In fact I think one or two of her posts quoted above by Lenzi was from the thread in which her stubborn obtuseness first showed...as I said, good riddance to someone who could not make friends but could only argue and detract.
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I have to admit to sniggering when I read this. A thread on harsh posters and Slowly looks in to see if her name was in it.

Disappointed?
No, relieved, I guess.

I'm not a big one for sugar-coating, but neither am I a b1tch.

I hate to see good/decent people waffling over 'what will family/friends/society think' or 'I'm not a good person unless I put everyone else's needs first' or 'God will not love me'.

I like to remind them that everywhere in the civilized world, the trash goes out WEEKLY; if that's where your relationship belongs, why let it rot and fester for MORE months/years. Make the decision, take out the trash, pick yourself up and move on!


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I saw the way s/he posted to others in this forum, not one to refrain from taking a witty shot or jab from what I observed, which didn't necessarily inspire me to be my most diplomatic... I wasn't going to be another one to be at the expense of her wit or lulz, so I just acted in the way I felt was just setting boundaries and called him/her out on a point he/she thought he/she made masterfully but didn't actually. I don't recall calling her any names nor telling her anything inappropriate.

In fact, once I could tell it was no longer fun for him/her, s/he said s/he could care less about anything I posted, I expressed my mutual sentiment, I ceased quoting him/her completely, and s/he continued claiming that in addition to so many prior forum stalkers (lol), s/he didn't need one more (me, lol, sure).

I apologize to you, friendly TAM people here, if I wasted some of your time or frustrated some of you in that thread.

I never knew about this thread, else I would have shared my thoughts before.

I can say confidently I have never replied harshly to friendly and polite people here, but I do retaliate (and have been banned before) when someone wants to play smart with me or other friendly posters at our expense.
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She had a go at Simply Amorous, which is like putting kittens in a bag and driving down to the river bank IMO.

S/he was just yanking our chains, I think it was a fella TBH.
If it was a dude, he's got the distorted feminist agenda down. There was a whole lot of anti-men anger for a dude.

I wondered if he/she was a former member that already got a perma ban. When you see someone come on strong like that, with no story of their own, that's often the case.
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Interesting thread. It's nice that TAM is lively. Sometimes people I like bait others. It is partly style, partly aggression. Not everybody hanging out here is 100%... bring Shaggy back.
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