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Old 07-01-2008, 04:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Last week I was on this board and received some great advice. As far as my husband is concerned everything is fine between us because we are talking, but in my heart he is still the same old absent person he always was and once again nothing has been resolved. An example of how clueless he is. The other night I whispered in his ear and said oh boy what a night we could have tonight no children we can have wild sex and kind of giggled his response to me was why do you have to plan sex. I wasn't planning I was simply making a cute statement which I thought any other man would have been like oh yeah I am gonna get lucky tonight. Well nothing happened what a suprise. Last night my daughter wasn't home and I said to him oh just think what could happen in this house tonight no child we can scream and yell and be noisy and nobody to listen well you would have thought I said this to a stranger. His response was why the hell do you always have to talk about stupid sex if you need it so bad find a f--ck partner. I looked at him and my mouth fell open. He doesn't realize that I am truly at that point. Well the whole things is that he has a problem I understand that he has to take viagara sometimes. It isn't a problem for me but I guess for him. Well the ending of the story was about an hour later he wanted me to sleep with him. After he spoke to me that way lets forget about it and have sex. NO WAY. I am wondering if he even cares if I had an affair.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm happily married, but man what I wouldn't give for my wife to do that. Seriously, I'm going home tonight and tell my wife I'd like her to whisper those sorts of things in my ear.

I've never really read much on men's libido issues, because I've always had the opposite problem, but I have caught little bits here and there through things I've read. For men, having a low sex drive is a HUGE issue. So much of the foundation of who a man is supposed to be is based on sexual prowess, and all men know it. It's stupid and archaic, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. It's very hard for men to deal with sex problems, and often men deny it as a real issue and instead of trying to resolve it, just get angry whenever the subject comes up. From what I've read, getting a man with a low sex drive or performance issues to be open about it and work on it is VERY difficult.

That all aside, this is one case where sex really isn't the issue. I've read through your previous post and everything runs so much deeper and farther than that. Even if you resolved the sex issue, I don't think that would affect any change him in regards to how removed he is from your needs and the marriage. It sounds like you are so incredibly unhappy and getting no where no matter what you do. It also sounds like your biggest worry is your daughter. So many people make the decision to stay together for the kid(s), forgetting that children often feed off of the emotional stability of their parents. If you're constantly unhappy, depressed, and going through wild mood swings with your husband, is that really better for your daughter than sitting her down and telling her what is going on and letting her know you think it might be time to try a separation? She's old enough to handle it, probably better than you think.

In no way do I condone the idea of an affair though. It never resolves anything. Will it shock him? Like you wouldn't believe. But the odds of it being a shock your already fragile marriage will survive is pretty low. Don't for one second think he wouldn't care. Men are incredibly jealous and territorial about their spouse. Your husbands response was straight from anger, possibly directly related to his performance anxiety. I can practically guarantee you he'd be emotionally destroyed if you actually slept with someone else. Not a great way to try and repair a marriage.

You really need an honest conversation with him where you set (i.e. write down in complete detail) goals for each others needs, short and long term, and then come up with explicit steps you need to make to reach those goals. And he needs to know that those are your minimum requirements to be happy in the marriage. Make sure you let him know from the beginning there are lots of things you plan to work on as well, it will keep him as open as possible to what you need. Write it out like a contract that you sign and agree to with the knowledge that it is a marital contract. Fall short or backslide too much and there are repercussions. Plan on revisiting your contract a couple times a year (or more often in the beginning) to go over your progress. If he is unwilling to meet them or compromise enough, then let him know you have to do what is necessary to ensure your happiness because you can't live any more as you are.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well bluecreek you said it all and I totally agree. I feel so bad for him, but my needs have to be met. I am not a very big sex person but I just feel it's okay when it suits him. He totally hates when I talk about sex it seems to make him sick so then the thoughts run through my mind that I just don't turn him on anymore. As far as an affair 2 years ago I met a man and was totally attracted to him and believe me he told me exactly what I wanted to hear and was just an all around kind of guy I would dream about and I couldn't do it the guilt would have killed me. I truly don't want to have to leave, but I am very unhappy but such a coward to leave. I have alot of things yes material things but I am not sure I want to give them up. I know it's is not at all a reason to stay. Yes I love him but I don't love the things about him. I just want to feel loved and important. By him saying that I should get a f--ck friend and then later that night wanting to have sex seems so crazy. I can't take the ups and downs anymore. If I sound confused well I am.
Yes my daughter is a big factor in all of this. I know she will be fine after a while but to take that step scares me. I guess starting over and being by myself is a big fear too. As much as I have tried to talk to him he doesn't seem to get the idea. I want flowers, nice thoughtful things I wouldn't care if it was a pretty rock from the side of the road just to think about me he can't handle that. I can't hold his hand anymore and be his mommy.
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