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Can't seem to stop it from going downhill

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After being divorced for a couple of years (I'm 40, had no kids and made a clean break with the ex) and dating several women I met a 39 y.o. divorced woman who didn't want kids and we really clicked. This is my first committed relationship since my divorce.

She was in two relationships after her divorce (she's been divorced for 3 years). The first was with a millionaire that ended up cheating and made her paranoid. The second was with a real douchey, drunk kind of guy that treated her nicely but didn't want to commit and they saw each other on and off for a year, whom she was still seeing when she met me. She likes to party and get drunk occasionally and really liked that about this guy.

We had a rocky relationship stemming from trust issues, my ex-wife cheated on me and her millionaire ex-boyfriend cheated on her and we both have difficult personalities.

She has always been extremely insecure of a couple of my female friends who I foolishly confessed to her find me attractive but never went beyond that.

One day she got a text from the douchey guy she dated and I could tell she was nervous, until I really pushed her she confessed it was him just saying hello (she showed me the message). After I made my point clear I would not tolerate contact with her exes, she said she would do anything necessary to get him to stop contacting her. She then changed her mind and said I should just trust her, so I dump her. She calls crying and begging so I take her back.

I investigate who this guy is and he seems to be the complete opposite from me (although we look alike), he is superficial, egotistical, very social, never married and posts his whole life on Facebook. So I start losing respect for my girlfriend...how could she have slept with this guy that she begged to have a relationship with but he never committed?. Did she fool me into have such high standards?.

So I keep having contact with my female friends, because they support and give me valuable insight on my relationship. I outright lie about this (very big mistake, because there is nothing bad really going on, I just don't want her feeling insecure and now she is insecure).

She is very emotionally dependent on her friends and tells them all our problems and they act as harsh judges and tell her what is best for her. This really bothers me and I repeatedly tell her to be discreet. I can tell when she has talked to them because she behaves like a different person

One day she finds her millionaire ex in an event and they talk (she told me everything). She says she is so happy that she is with me, but she clearly was shaken because this guy was the the one who hurt her and talked too much about him. I get insecure and we have an argument and stop talking for a day.

I text my female friends and they tell me its a mistake I'm insecure and its always a big issue seeing an ex that hurt you and that I shouldn't make it and issue.

That same day she shows up unannounced at my office and threatens me that she will end things if I don’t show her my texts (she reads texts with my female friends talking about her being jealous and controlling and me being insecure) so she gets crazy and threatens again to end the relationship, so I dump her again thinking she's looking for reasons to go back to her ex. Then comes back and hears me out and she's hurt and distrustful but wants us to be together.

Things keep going but have many heated arguments about the women I've dated before her (but have no contact with), my ex-wife, lying about my female friends, his millionaire ex-boyfriend, his douchey ex-lover.

We keep having a rocky relationship but want to be together and decide to move in. We have a hard time talking about rules and finances and she has unrealistic expectations and views of how living together should be, no doubt fueled by her friends because she goes back on some of the things we have already agreed on.

I back out from living together when she told me we're not as happy as she thinks we should be, because other couples seem happier. She says I'm afraid of commitment.

She gets bitter, angry and depressed more every day since then and we argue even more. She goes to see a psychiatrist who tell her she is depressed and should go on medication.

One day I hand her my phone so she could see some texts a friend of her sent me and she starts questioning me about my contacts and who some girls were (some I've dated but have no contact with). She asks me to delete those contacts from my phone and says she would do the same. A couple of weeks pass and I sort through my contacts and delete the ones that are not useful anymore and especially those she asked. When I ask her if she did it, she said she would do that later when she has the time.

Weeks go by and she keeps being depressed and not taking her medication, she goes to group therapy and seems interested in getting better without medication, but is constantly nagging and finding faults in the relationship.

Last week she drank a lot while we were having dinner and told me she really wanted to make thing work, as she got more intoxicated I told her to stop drinking but she gets aggressive and yells at me and tells me that I should make an effort to win her back and that we should no longer stay together at her place during the weekends and that she is never going back to mine. I question her about the texts and contacts she hasn't deleted and says she won't do it because the texts form douchey guy make her feel great (keep in mind she is very drunk and slurs her speech). I dump her once more.

Now we are talking again and want to make things work, but are stuck in a rut and very hurt. We really love each other and admitted our faults. We have agreed to spend some time apart to work on each other.

I'm confused and hurt, sorry for the long post. Your insight is greatly appreciated
 
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#4 ·
I stopped reading about half way in.

Picture Jamie Farr with a gong. Didn't need to see anymore.

You aren't married. No kids. <GONG>
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#5 ·
Interesting that you feel the millionaire was important to her while she admitted while being drunk that reading her alcoholics ex texts makes her happy... She obviously has priority for fun over money, she craves being accepted by her toxic friends, dating a rich guy would do the trick.

I vote for closet drunk, why deal with all this nonsense? Go out there and find a better match, I know you said you are in love, but you just think you are, not one sentence you wrote hints at love.
 
#6 ·
Yes, it does sound a lot like a high school relationship. OP, you two simply are not right for each other, let it go and move forward.

BTW, maybe am almost 40 year old still drinking like a college girl isn't the best choice either.
 
#8 ·
You are both hypocrites. You each lean on others of the opposite sex for emotional support.

The communication from males make her feel great - you don't like.

The communication that you have with your female friends - make you feel great (even if you don't want to admit it). - she doesn't like.

You, are on the downslide (probably already there) of at least one Emotional Affair. Your wife probably the same.

Who the hell wants a relationship like this? Neither of you are ready for a serious relationship.
 
#11 ·
Neither one of you are relationship material. I'm a woman and I would never date you. I also would distance myself FAR from this woman if she was in my circle of girlfriends.

good luck.
 
#12 ·
We really love each other
Really?

It doesn't really sound like you have a basis for a relationship. The only thing you really said about both of you is that you seem to have ongoing arguments about both of your insecurities.

When you need solace or support...you both go outside of the relationship to talk to other people (who also happen to be of the opposite sex). You only seem to come together to do battle. The only thing you both seem to have in common is that you both need to feel ownership over the other.

Part of being ready for a relationship is understand both what you want out of it and what you can provide to the other person. Having a lot of conflict and noise isn't the same thing as being in a partnership.
 
#13 ·
Those are some harsh replies. Thing is we do love each other and want to make it work but we can't seem to find how.

I understand I made a huge mistake making her feel insecure about my female friends and I cut them out of my life for good.

I also stopped feeling insecure about her ex boyfriends. But what really did a number on me is the way she treasures those messages even now. She says she is sorry for getting drunk and is working on improving herself.

She explained the douchey ex-boyfriend would never be in the same level as I am and that he is not worth it. Those messages made her feel good now that she is down and that she would never cheat on me (and I believe her).

I know it takes some kind of miracle to save this. Any ideas on making it happen?
 
#14 ·
Well I think holding yourself to the same standard you expect of a partner is a good start. If you want to draw a line where exes are concerned you can't well have all these women "friends" that find you attractive around. In the end it accomplishes the same thing as her d0uchy ex..... gives you an inappropriate ego boost.

Whether things are salvageable with her is up in the air but it will make you a much better deal for another woman.
As for this one, all I can day is make your boundaries clear, maintain your own boundaries consistently according to what you ask and see if it works out.
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#15 ·
I know you want to make this work, but it takes more than love to make a relationship work, and instead of building the foundations for a great relationship, you've both systematically destroyed them.

Your GF is depressed, and I think your relationship is a huge reason for that. You make each other miserable. Around every corner is another huge drama.

You've dumped her three times. Every time she keeps running back. If she was a friend of mine I'd want to tell her to wake up to herself.

Makes me think of my first long-term boyfriend. I pushed him over something stupid in my own insecurity and immaturity and we split up. I called him back almost immediately wanting him to take me back and he refused. Broke my heart and I balled and I look back on that and I'm so thankful that he did what I couldn't at that point and just put an end to a crappy relationship. Geez I really thought I loved that guy, but it wasn't right, and nothing on earth would've made that relationship work. I have a heck of a lot of respect for him for that.
 
#16 ·
According to her psychiatrist, she is depressed because she holds a lot of anger stemming from suffering a chronic disease, abandoment and cheating issues during her childhood, as well as fighting generalized anxiety for years.

She has been on antidepressants a couple of times before.

The relationship problems we are having, certainly do not add to her well being, but it is not the sole cause.
 
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