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She doesn't think it is, but the "violet flame" meditation, "Galactic Federation of Light" and "St. Germaine" crap seems like a cult to me.
My wife went from cheating to hiding that she had done so for an extended period of time to moving right into the crazy shelf instead of attempting to repair things with me.
She says God forgave her and so she owes me nothing?
Plus, she also thinks she is on this planet to "learn life lessons" from what she did in past lives. So whatever she has done in this life? Kinda not hr fault!
Very frustrating. I cannot have a rational discussion about anything with her at this point.
No, I haven't. I don't really know a lot of your story, mich, but it almost seems as if her mind has been washed out to sea if she is really believing what she is saying. Is she just using this as some sort of excuse to not own up to what she did, or do you feel she could be a bit off upstairs?
No...just a spouse who was obviously abducted by aliens and brainwashed. lol But, seriously, your wife sounds confused. I'm familiar with meditation, "past life theories", and some of the other things. Her theory on forgiveness doesn't jive with the other principles. What makes you believe she is involved with a cult? Any meetings? Strange "church"?
The Galactic Federation of Light was founded over 4.5 million years ago to prevent inter-dimensional dark forces from dominating and exploiting this galaxy. At present, there are just over 200,000 member star nations, confederations or unions. Approximately 40% are humanoids and the rest are varied forms of sentient beings. Most members of the Galactic Federation are fully conscious beings.
No...just a spouse who was obviously abducted by aliens and brainwashed. lol But, seriously, your wife sounds confused. I'm familiar with meditation, "past life theories", and some of the other things. Her theory on forgiveness doesn't jive with the other principles. What makes you believe she is involved with a cult? Any meetings? Strange "church"?
They get on these conference telephone calls which she has to pay to be on so they can "put things into the light" that need "healing."
There are youtube videos, and a whole website that she is on for hours at a time.
She went on a "spiritual retreat" to Mt Shasta area last year for 10 days and met up with these nutty folks and their leader. He's a white guy who has taken on some india-sounding name.
She now thinks she is going to be an energy healer.
The Galactic Federation of Light was founded over 4.5 million years ago to prevent inter-dimensional dark forces from dominating and exploiting this galaxy. At present, there are just over 200,000 member star nations, confederations or unions. Approximately 40% are humanoids and the rest are varied forms of sentient beings. Most members of the Galactic Federation are fully conscious beings.
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Wow ... just wow.
Beam me up to the mother ship please.
I just "Googled" that too. That is strange and doesn't tie into the other. Here I thought Mrs. Michzz may be leaning towards some of the Buddhist teachings--not by a long shot!
The Galactic Federation of Light was founded over 4.5 million years ago to prevent inter-dimensional dark forces from dominating and exploiting this galaxy. At present, there are just over 200,000 member star nations, confederations or unions. Approximately 40% are humanoids and the rest are varied forms of sentient beings. Most members of the Galactic Federation are fully conscious beings.
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Wow ... just wow.
Beam me up to the mother ship please.
If I heard about it I'd think it funny too. It's absurd!
But it's not funny when I have to deal with her looniness on top of everything else.
They get on these conference telephone calls which she has to pay to be on so they can "put things into the light" that need "healing."
There are youtube videos, and a whole website that she is on for hours at a time.
She went on a "spiritual retreat" to Mt Shasta area last year for 10 days and met up with these nutty folks and their leader. He's a white guy who has taken on some india-sounding name.
She now thinks she is going to be an energy healer.
It won't get any better. She will be trying to get you to join, and when you won't you'll be accused of "not being there for her". Almost all cults teach the women are to have sex with the men leaders. Watch your bank accounts, and credit cards.
If I heard about it I'd think it funny too. It's absurd!
But it's not funny when I have to deal with her looniness on top of everything else.
I actually don't see this as funny either. You have a real problem here. I know you know that. Cults do have their members scam others for financial support. Some also do expect females to have sex with cult leaders. I have no idea about these.
You probably need some professional help. But not just any body. Someone who has some knowledge of cults.
She's having problems with being human in the here and now.
Anything to escape the fact that being human means being fallible.
Button down your finances and document the cult activity.
Move as much money as possible into places she can't access it without your signature, sign up for a credit monitoring service and put a fraud alert on all of your accounts - individual for you and joint. Other than that there's not much you can do, when someone decides to be involved in an organization, freedom and personal liberties rule, until you have hard evidence that they are a danger to self/others.
Had a brother in a cult. Got a speeding ticket last time I visited him, as I was leaving. Couldn't get away fast enough! I was very young, like 19, but apprently brilliant beyond my years.
Sounds like she's joined the aluminum foil hat people. Be prepared, there may come a time when you have to give her a choice...you or the cult...because they will probably tell her to make that choice, too. And, pleased, don't get sucked into the crazyness yourself, don't go along to get along.
Cult followers; communist cadres, Nazis, religious cult members, personality cults, suicide bombers, terrorist cells, North Korean Juche, Jim Jones-town, Hale-Bopp comet all share a single trait. Their members have near zero self awareness. It's not a lack of self esteem it's an almost complete lack of identity. They exist only as a reflection of some idealized other directing them. They exist to serve that image. Often they are willing but passive participants in violent crime, like Caril Fugate (of Charlie Starkweather fame). Not all cults are violent though. Often they just exploit the hapless for money. And a few are flat out psychotic.
This is probably why you wife cheated as well. And I suspect she cheated often and frequently and was happy to be a pawn in that person's hands. It's validating to her. Being a follower under an indifferent yet benevolent master is what gives her her identity.
You have to understand how this works. They find someone with no center, no self awareness and they systematically tear down the edifice of their personality. Sleep deprivation, light starvation, ritual, enforced activity. Combined with the appearance of absolute unqualified group love. The result is similar to a religious re-birth and the person is now ready for programming. The cult proceeds to stuff their empty heads with whatever they need and they fill up their souls with blind obedience.
has anyone dealt w spouse in cult? 
