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post #106 of 140 (permalink) Old 03-05-2017, 08:30 AM
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Funny thing is millennials are people in their 30's actually nowadays... So you're probably more of o than myself. Miolenials are a sad bunch IMO but they were raised by the babyboomers so what can you expect?
Well, my millennial husband isn't a sad man. Unless, of course, you count the times when our post-millennial son does something that is often attributed to millennials (because many say millennial, thinking only of those who are early 20s and teens). Younger mad at others stereotyping, yet you do the same. You seem to be trying to bait posters. I would advise you to stop, as that goes against TAM TOS.

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Darling I don't know where you get your facts from, but millenials (aka Generation Y) were not raised by baby boomers, that was the Generation X's - like me. I'm old enough to be your mum.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z

No my mom is generation x most of that generation were raised by the silent generation including my mom. Some babyboomers did have generation x sadly. Teen pregnancy exist so that's clearly possible. But most were raised by the silent generation. And generation z was raised by the x generation. Some were raised by generation y of course teen pregnancy has always existed.

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No my mom is generation x most of that generation were raised by the silent generation including my mom. Some babyboomers did have generation x sadly. Teen pregnancy exist so that's clearly possible. But most were raised by the silent generation. And generation z was raised by the x generation. Some were raised by generation y of course teen pregnancy has always existed.

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Well, my millennial husband isn't a sad man. Unless, of course, you count the times when our post-millennial son does something that is often attributed to millennials (because many say millennial, thinking only of those who are early 20s and teens). Younger mad at others stereotyping, yet you do the same. You seem to be trying to bait posters. I would advise you to stop, as that goes against TAM TOS.

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I'm not trying to offend. At all. I am just being clear that I'm not a millennial. Millennial s tend to be more liberal than post millennials I was born in 96 he station z starts in 1994. I was called a millennial and I just was correcting the post who said I was one. BTW millennials are in their mid 20's not early 20's that's the beginning of generation z post millennials. I know because I'm on personality cafe. Many people born in even 1993 feel they are y/z cusp.
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Meh half my slang, exaggeration of course, is now in the dictionary and considered accepted phrases and words.

LOL.

Baby Boomers are basically the last unchanged labeled group with births from 1946-1964. After that it is a crap shoot, I've seen "millenail" stretched to 35, when they removed generation Y in some studies. I stopped caring long ago.
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OK now that I have some terms for some of the stages in the spectrum from homo to hetero, then your fiancé should not come out as bisexual to your family as that would be confusing. He should come out as a biromantic homoflexible (just to make it less confusing) cheating male who helped to break up a family and slept with another biromantic homoflexible who is married and has children (just as your fiancé is about to be - married with children). At the same time he should own up to and apologise for his bad behaviour and not hide behind the fact that he was only 16 or 18 when it suits him (and apparently you too) yet is grown up enough to be in a serious relationship when it suits him.

And yes I must commend the way you have stood up to us all with unregulated wiki quotes and placing blame on the previous generations (my, oh how original) - my kids went through this although they are now in their mid 20s and are starting to take responsibility for what they need to do going forward (as I am sure you will as a mature responsible parent).

The bottom line is that your fiancé did something bad, your parents found out and suddenly you think that by coming out as bisexual or whatever, that is going to explain why he slept with a married father ? Think about this carefully and try and work out the basic morality that needs to apply. Stop blaming others for his bad behaviour - he needs to own it and apologise and then work on improving himself.
This is the only no nonsense post that was made since I left so I'll reply.

My fiance didn't cheat on anyone and we decided its best he comes out. To them. Not all the details but just as a simpler term like bisexual. If they don't believe him its OK but they know where we both stand and how I accept him and know about his previous relationship. And am OK with it.

I think a big factor was that he was younger which is why he made poor decisions on this. But hes already said in the past when we first for together that he regretted the relationship altogether its nothing hes proud of.


Well like I said the whole thing was technically illegal. So I mean it shouldn't have happened to begin with beyond my fiance's actions. I think generally about the whole affair thing considering his agewhen it happened will help my family at least be quiet about it. That's the approach we've agreed on so yeah. Its all figured out

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I'm not trying to offend. At all. I am just being clear that I'm not a millennial. Millennial s tend to be more liberal than post millennials I was born in 96 he station z starts in 1994. I was called a millennial and I just was correcting the post who said I was one. BTW millennials are in their mid 20's not early 20's that's the beginning of generation z post millennials. I know because I'm on personality cafe. Many people born in even 1993 feel they are y/z cusp.
It is undefined and this is why I gave up worrying about the different generations.
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There are no precise dates for when this cohort starts or ends; demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s
So, yeah, you can be considered a millenial according to your own source for information.
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Meh half my slang, exaggeration of course, is now in the dictionary and considered accepted phrases and words.

LOL.

Baby Boomers are basically the last unchanged labeled group with births from 1946-1964. After that it is a crap shoot, I've seen "millenail" stretched to 35, when they removed generation Y in some studies. I stopped caring long ago.
Its actually up to 37 in general sometimes 39/40.

The youngest of the generation 24 or 25. Sometimes it foes up to 95. So its like 20/21. But generally 92/93 are the cut off years.
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It is undefined and this is why I gave up worrying about the different generations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

So, yeah, you can be considered a millenial according to your own source for information.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z

Generation of people now being born; earliest birth dates for this generation are described as early as 1994 or as late as 2005


Most of the time generation z starts in the mid 90's. I was born in the mid to late 90's so I'd be a post millennial. For more reasons than that I'm a post millennial. I came of age long after 2000 and well into the 10's. Generation z matures in the 10'd not the 00's.
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Tthe wiki link you posted credits "Authors William Strauss and Neil Howe" with coining the term millennial. Here is the age group they use for their theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straus...ational_theory

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Millennials (Generation Y)2 Hero (Civic) 1982–2004 (22)
You believe one thing, while others believe another. So, we will just have to disagree. I've already made too much work for the mods so, last response on this subject to you.

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I'm not sure what all the talk about generations is about or why it is relevant.

The only thing that strikes me (and made me guess your age before you stated it yourself) is that you both still care too much about what your parents think. I remember being around your age, doing some things that my parents didn't approve of, including getting pregnant at the "wrong" age (per my parents opinion) and being crushed by the idea that they were disappointed in me or didn't support me 100%. It was a really big deal to me then.

I look back now- about 10 years later - and don't feel that way anymore and realize my need to have my parents approval was because of my age. My only regret about that time of my life is how I handled it. I should have had a very frank conversation with my parents and told them the following:

Parents, I understand that as your daughter you want what is best for me and that you worry about my wellbeing. I am now an adult and I am making my own decisions. You do not have to agree with my decisions, but I hope that we can be peaceful with each other and maintain a relationship with each other despite your opinions about what I am or am not doing. I would like my child to have a relationship with their grandparents. However, if you continue to berate my life and/or my husband and my choices, I feel I have no choice but to separate myself and my family from you. My husband and my child should not be subjected to your negativity and as a wife and mother my responsibility is now to them. What happens behind closed doors is not anyone else's business, including yours. I love you and hope that you will feel comfortable being a part of our lives moving forward."

In other words, I hope that you will realize that what your parents think doesn't matter anymore. You don't owe them an explanation about anything.
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Tthe wiki link you posted credits "Authors William Strauss and Neil Howe" with coining the term millennial. Here is the age group they use for their theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straus...ational_theory



You believe one thing, while others believe another. So, we will just have to disagree. I've already made too much work for the mods so, last response on this subject to you.
Lol you're desperately cherry picking there are 8 sources that says says it ends before 96 and most of those mention the mid 90's which would start at 93/94 way before 96





MetLife which uses birth dates ranging from 1977–1994,[25] and Nielsen Media Research which uses 1977–1995.[26][27]

The majority of researchers and demographers start the generation in the early 1980s. Many end the generation in the mid-1990s. Australia's McCrindle Research[28] uses 1980–1994.
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Just like the last thing you mentioned you are clearly wrong


Basically millennial is a 90's kid. I was only 3 maybe in the 90's. I do t remember the 90's. You can see the descriptions apply to people born in mid 90%s 04 at the latest.
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Why is stereotyping people so important to you?

First there is the basket full of words to stereotype people based on their bisexuality... to which degree a person is or is not attracted to a particular gender.

Now it's labels/stereotypes based on when a person is born.

While the media might use these terms, in real life they mean very little.

People are individuals. Stereotypes don't work on the individual level.
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She already knows that EleGirl. She said she knows more than her elders. They only screwed up her and the world as she knows it. That's all there is of it, what she was taught. We know everything written for education has no bias at all and includes both sides of every story to help youths learn how to think and make decisions based on facts and the opinions of both sides.

The sarcasm in my post was almost overwhelming for me. I might have to take a nap. I'm of the baby boomer generation, you know. It hurts to think. I have to forget all that I was taught to form a cogent analysis.

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Why is stereotyping people so important to you?

First there is the basket full of words to stereotype people based on their bisexuality... to which degree a person is or is not attracted to a particular gender.

Now it's labels/stereotypes based on when a person is born.

While the media might use these terms, in real life they mean very little.

People are individuals. Stereotypes don't work on the individual level.
Eww that's hypocritical. You called my fiance gay. So you were stereotyping very readily. Why not practice what you preach.

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