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post #31 of 100 (permalink) Old 04-04-2017, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
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No but many of the women you were referring to DO, e.g., your point about working from home to spend more time with them is somehow the cause of the demise of their marriage for pulling a "switch and bait," and becoming more dependent on their husband's income after projecting "independence."

Independent behavior is a major reason why marriages fail. Married women (and men) should be dependent on their spouses, especially when they are raising children together- it's called "interdependence" and is what most successful marriages strive for.

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it's called "interdependence" and is what most successful marriages strive for.
She was completely dependent on me for everything. I cooked, paid every bill, planned vacations or evening/ weekend events, grocery shopping.... She smoked a pack a day and drank 1-2 bottles of wine every afternoon. I tried for interdependence for years, which is why I paid for her MS degree.
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She was completely dependent on me for everything. I cooked, paid every bill, planned vacations or evening/ weekend events, grocery shopping.... She smoked a pack a day and drank 1-2 bottles of wine every afternoon. I tried for interdependence for years, which is why I paid for her MS degree.
I'm sorry, and I understand your hurt and anger. But I can assure you, not all women are like this. Many of us truly care about our husbands and want to take great care of our families. I wish you the best and hope you find the woman of your dreams, who will treat you how you deserve.
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This dude just took the RED PILL! Now your eyes are open.
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Great, now the He-man woman haters club joins in...


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I'm sorry, and I understand your hurt and anger. But I can assure you, not all women are like this. Many of us truly care about our husbands and want to take great care of our families. I wish you the best and hope you find the woman of your dreams, who will treat you how you deserve.
Gee, this sounds a bit like my marriages... only my husbands were worse.

Let's see, the first decided to quit his career as an MS/EE to go to medical school. So I supported him through medical school and residency, was the main care giver to our son, and did all the house work, cooking, cleaning, etc. I also discovered that he was cheating the enter time.

Second husband worked for the first 2 years of our marriage. Then was laid off and never got a job again. Instead he spent his days playing computer games and surfing the web (literally spent every waking moment doing this). All the while I was the sole bread winner, raised my son and his 2 children, did all house work, all home maintenance, cooked, paid the bills, etc. etc. etc.

If I used your logic, I would take the great leap and say that all men are lazy, mooching, cheating asses.

Thanks goodness I am smart enough to know that I can only blame them for their own behavior.

That's an idea you might want to take seriously.

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Geez that's a big ass net.
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I've worked my butt off the majority of my adult life so that I wouldn't be a mooch to either my parents or my spouses.


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Can you guys bring yourselves to admit that this is a common theme among marriages!?! I see a common thread: "Not all women are like this". The fact that this mantra is repeated followed by posters giving examples how they aren't entitled, lazy and are hardworking screams that this is the reality.

Open your eyes! EVERY DAY due to my job schedule I slip off to the gym to work out. I see gaggles of stay-at-home moms who I've gotten to know and guess what? They are educated at Furman, William and Mary, Va Tech, Michigan St- and their kids are all in school. They talk about all the outings they do together. Its the lives of Riley.

The occasional mention of their husbands is followed by an eye roll. I can imagine these poor meal tickets being turned down for sex, coming home to a *****y demeanor.

Society has created feminist Princesses. What recourse does the Meal Ticket have? Well, he can try and get her to work outside of the home. (BTW - taking care of babies is a HARD job, I'm not negating that- but add in "mother's mornings out, cleaning lady, child watch at the gym"). Or he can divorce, break up the family and guess what? He gets to live in a $hitty apartment while she lives in the house that he pays for. The mother "automatically" gets custody b/c she has a VaJajay.
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And you guys are right.....

"Not all women are like that" - The ones that aren't are called Unicorns.
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Can you guys bring yourselves to admit that this is a common theme among marriages!?! I see a common thread: "Not all women are like this". The fact that this mantra is repeated followed by posters giving examples how they aren't entitled, lazy and are hardworking screams that this is the reality.

Open your eyes! EVERY DAY due to my job schedule I slip off to the gym to work out. I see gaggles of stay-at-home moms who I've gotten to know and guess what? They are educated at Furman, William and Mary, Va Tech, Michigan St- and their kids are all in school. They talk about all the outings they do together. Its the lives of Riley.

The occasional mention of their husbands is followed by an eye roll. I can imagine these poor meal tickets being turned down for sex, coming home to a *****y demeanor.
Of course this is all true. I experience the same thing everyday when I happen to go to the gym mid-day, bunch of women acting like children and of course insufferable when adult lives interject into the conversation.

I became aware of the Red Pill community after I filed for divorce, and of course, that's all just the way of the world told without a politically correct filter to save the minorities feelings. Straight dope for the enlightened. Go forth armed with the truth and live abundantly.

Like all things in life, I take the good and leave the extreme behind for the Stage 4 MGTOW and PUA players. All men understand the Red Pill argument without having it explained to them, it's in our DNA to know this, like a dog that does circles before laying down, it's ancient knowledge... most just don't want to believe it fully. I've been having a lot of fun implementing the Plate Theory in my dating world in the past few months with great success. I can verify that all the MGTOW/Red Pill rhetoric is very true, ESPECIALLY in the 30+ and divorced female community. https://therationalmale.com/2011/08/19/plate-theory-2/


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Can you guys bring yourselves to admit that this is a common theme among marriages!?! I see a common thread: "Not all women are like this". The fact that this mantra is repeated followed by posters giving examples how they aren't entitled, lazy and are hardworking screams that this is the reality.

Open your eyes! EVERY DAY due to my job schedule I slip off to the gym to work out. I see gaggles of stay-at-home moms who I've gotten to know and guess what? They are educated at Furman, William and Mary, Va Tech, Michigan St- and their kids are all in school. They talk about all the outings they do together. Its the lives of Riley.

The occasional mention of their husbands is followed by an eye roll. I can imagine these poor meal tickets being turned down for sex, coming home to a *****y demeanor.

Society has created feminist Princesses. What recourse does the Meal Ticket have? Well, he can try and get her to work outside of the home. (BTW - taking care of babies is a HARD job, I'm not negating that- but add in "mother's mornings out, cleaning lady, child watch at the gym"). Or he can divorce, break up the family and guess what? He gets to live in a $hitty apartment while she lives in the house that he pays for. The mother "automatically" gets custody b/c she has a VaJajay.

I live in the uk, and practically every wife and mother here has to work full time as well to pay for the incredibly expensive housing rents or mortgages.
I am not sure who you mix with, but what you describe in women just isn't what I see at all.
I cant think of a single mother I know who doesn't work as hard as the husband, and on top of that most women do far more work in the house and with the children than the dads do.
MY DIL has just stopped work only 2 weeks before their baby is due! She has worked full time all through her pregnancy and will go back to work in a few months when her maternity leave ends. This is the norm here.
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By claiming his wife is representative of all women, he doesn't have to own his own choices.


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