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Yo, I'm going to go ahead and state the obvious. This is 2017, not 1940, and we're living in the U.S., not some 3rd world backwater.
Do your homework, dude...

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Do your homework, dude...
Insightful. Isn't their a protest going on today that you could go to?
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Maybe it's time to move to North Western Europe. I do love Europe, usually visit for 2 weeks every October, I'm pretty sure I could make the move.

I speculate that a lot of what you describe can be attributed to the policies that European countries have in place for growing families. All the maternity leave, universal health care, vacation time.... much less taxing on families than it is here in the U.S. We value different things here... like money, grinding, hustling, entrepreneurship, putting on a strong front, standing your ground and endless political fighting... it wears on people.
All the married women I know here in the USA work just a hard to support their family as their husbands do. I get that you are bitter, but get real. Only you and your wife own the failure of your marriage.
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I can clarify later if you like? Women view men as a utility. A wallet, sperm donor, father for her offspring. Women try to mold there often alpha men into a Beta and then later reject him...
Sorry sweetpea, but "women" don't do this. SOME women do this, but you have no idea how many do or how many don't.

If you have proof to the contrary, I'd love to see it. Your experiences with 'women' are with barely a handful of women on the planet.
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This thread is gone off the rails.

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Insightful. Isn't their a protest going on today that you could go to?
I LOVE it when men like you resort to insults because you have nothing worthwhile to say.
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I don't know if I really care to engage in this slap fight all that much, but I've learned, as a minority woman with several degrees, is that men need to avoid women whose major or degree ends in the word "Studies" like the plague.

You don't want to marry someone who's looking for new and trendy ways to identify as a victim.

As for the OP, "Sorry you feel that way".
The OP might not have a degree that ends in "study", or maybe he does. We don't know. But, reading his posts, it is clear that a person does not need such a degree to find ways to identify as a victim.
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Haven't read everything but the US is especially unforgiving towards working mothers. My friends in Canada can take a year off and go back to work. In the US, women have to sacrifice tremendously career wise in order to care for their young children. I find it almost barbaric that women have to go back straight to work after having babies.

I'm 31, have a degree in engineering and I make 6 figures a year. But guess what, when I have kids, it means I will have to sacrifice time with them. I always used to worry about what I would do when I do have kids, since I only get 12 weeks paid off for maternity at my job. I've made this decision though, to keep working. Many women choose to sacrifice their careers and focus on family. Men don't have to make that tough choice, they get to keep their careers and have kids, no problem.

Women will get judged either way but society. Some will judge SAHMs, others working moms. There's no winning.
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I LOVE it when men like you resort to insults because you have nothing worthwhile to say.
I'm pretty sure you are the one that had nothing to say except for some insinuations about how things were before any of us were born, trying to make it seem like this is all going on in our modern culture:

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LOL!!!

I'll tell ya, I LONG for the day where men are 'owned' as property of their MOTHER'S; where MEN are FORCED to marry a woman who the MOTHER chooses...where only a WOMAN can divorce a MAN and a MAN wasn't allowed to divorce.

How about a WIFE having several husbands? Or that only a WOMAN was allowed to own property?

Seems to me that if 'men' wouldn't like that....arrangement....they shouldn't have done the very same thing to WOMEN for thousands of years.
What do you have to say about the obvious flaw in the family court system and their role in this mans suicide.

https://www.facebook.com/Fathers4kid...829342580894:0

Their was a great book written about how the family court system bullied this father into suicide: Bullied to Death https://www.amazon.com/Bullied-Death.../dp/B0149ERBBI

IMO every person going through the process to marry should be required to attend counseling about prenuptial agreements and some light contract law. A marriage is a BUSINESS CONTRACT, why wouldn't you protect yourself when entering into a business contract???

Can you think of any business contract whereas if the venture fails the outcome is that the least productive partner is rewarded and receives the majority of the earned profits and hypothetical future profits? That F---cking insane MAN. Wake up. Marriages are completely unequal business ventures that in no way would be entered into when viewed from this analytical and business minded viewpoint. It's a shame that men love woman much more than woman are capable of giving in return, this love blinds us to future disasters.

The least productive partner in the failed business venture can even have the court system force the successful partner to pay their legal fees! Yeah, that's crazy town. It's really no surprise the family court buildings are harder to access that an airport terminal.
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70% of married women have jobs.

About 50% earn as much or more than their husbands.

Clearly they are not all at the gym being "feminist Princesses".

What is really funny is you are talking about the women you see at the gym when you are there. So if we follow your line of thinking, you are some kind of "Prince" since you are just at the gym goofing off.
What source are you quoting for these stats? And I'm self employed also, so as long as I bring home the bacon - I can work out anytime I want. I prefer to start working at 6am and break mid morning to work out.

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