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Old 06-20-2012, 09:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm married a few years to a man I really love and admire, and usually feel confident in his love for me except for this one reoccurring situation, which really hurts!

He's older than me (over 15 years), and so are all his family (sister being the most relevant in this case), and we also come from different cultures (he's African, I'm European).

My own family are all in another country and are also not that close emotionally with each other or with me.

I really admire how close his family is, and see it as far more healthy/functional than my own, and so actively encourage my husband's relationship with them, as well as attend and support family gatherings myself.

However, his sister seems to have me in her sights for some reason.

She has been somewhat domineering and aggressive to me on other occasions, but what has really upset me has been our last meal together which I will describe briefly:

-She gave a lot of unwanted advice about how we should arrange our affairs (eg. childcare for our coming baby). I said something along the lines of "oh its alright, we've pretty much got our plans figured out." She seemed to take offence and proceeded to tell me that I had a lot to learn, and should realise my place to listen to those older than me.

-She said that I would never have a happy marriage if I did not respect his family and their views, and that I should realise I am only his wife and not his blood, and that in her eyes I might come and go.

-She said I should realise that the whole family could turn their backs on me if I 'disrespected' them, and again that I have a lot of learning to do.

All of this seemed to come out of nowhere, but the message I got was that she felt 'the family' had more of a say over how things are done with our child, and that as I was younger than her I should take a back seat and shut up!

Now, I have no problem standing up to her myself, and just politely reminding her that we'll be discussing it between us (me and my husband), and that we are the parents.

But what really hurt is that my husband just sat silently and listened to her saying all these things, and never once said anything himself. He thinks its better to just keep quiet and then do what we want anyway.

I would never let a member of my family speak to him the way she spoke to me, I would get angry and stop them if they did... whereas he just doesn't seem to care.

I don't want to cause problems between him and his family, but I feel like she attacked me and he just watched it happen.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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WOW. Talk about not validating or defending...
I cut off my own mother due to snide, sarcastic, under-the-breath comments to my wife....
She must be the alpha sibling. Have you spoken to him about it?
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Did you express these feelings to him? Did you sit down and talk about this?
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-She gave a lot of unwanted advice about how we should arrange our affairs (eg. childcare for our coming baby). I said something along the lines of "oh its alright, we've pretty much got our plans figured out." She seemed to take offence and proceeded to tell me that I had a lot to learn, and should realise my place to listen to those older than me.

-She said that I would never have a happy marriage if I did not respect his family and their views, and that I should realise I am only his wife and not his blood, and that in her eyes I might come and go.

-She said I should realise that the whole family could turn their backs on me if I 'disrespected' them, and again that I have a lot of learning to do.
I am actually outraged that a husband would stand down from this!
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I'm trying to figure out how to talk to him about it because the problem is I am hurt and angry and don't want to let feelings cloud my rational mind.

I believe he is on my side, but I think he will just tell me that I should keep quiet to keep the peace, and then do what we want anyway when she is not there.

On one side I can see this is sensible, but on the other side I think it is still not right for her to speak to me so badly. I don't want to sit there and be quiet, I want to tell her to stop!

But then I worry my husband will say I am the one causing the argument.
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In this case.. I think if there was a family dinner.. with BOTH sides of the family... it just may open up this sisters eyes to cultural differences and the H's as well... then perhaps.. there may be a bit more respect shown? That's just a thought though...
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Defend yourself. You wouldn't let a member of your family speak that way to him? Good, use that spine of yours and don't let a member of his family speak that way to you either.
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I think it would be a good idea to point out to your H that you wouldn't let YOUR family do this to him.
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Defend yourself. You wouldn't let a member of your family speak that way to him? Good, use that spine of yours and don't let a member of his family speak that way to you either.


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I think it would be a good idea to point out to your H that you wouldn't let YOUR family do this to him.
excellent advice!

Also, Don't make this out to be a "she is picking on me". show him how disrespectful it is to him to be treating his wife this way...

Very good Gaia....
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Thank you to those who have commented.

I am happy to defend myself, and will more strongly if this comes up again (I'm sure it will). But I feel hurt that my husband is not saying anything either.

It feels like he is not backing me up, and I feel like he should also be telling her to stop, or am I asking too much?

I know it is his family, but I would not let my family do this to him. But then my family is not a very happy/healthy one anyway, so I don't know if my viewpoint is wrong.
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excellent advice!

Also, Don't make this out to be a "she is picking on me". show him how disrespectful it is to him to be treating his wife this way...

Very good Gaia....
lol I've actually had to do this with my own H before.. which is why i suggested it.
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Your viewpoint is not wrong but keep in mind that it may take some time for your H to realize how damaging your SIL's behavior can be to your relationship with him.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:00 AM   #14 (permalink)
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My ex W always felt that my mom was attacking her - my mom was only ever voicing her own opinion, and I will admit my mom is very opinionated. I would never do anything to instigate a disagreement with my mom, let her speak her mind, I take what I want and leave the rest.

My ex W felt so threatened all the time and like your H said about your sisters, I just said then ignore her, she doesn't live with us, be quiet about it and then do what we want anyway.

I honestly can't comprehend why my now ex had to make an issue of it, yes she has different beliefs and a different custom of communicating, but when my ex demanded I "defend" her she was giving me a sh!t test, basically forcing me to choose between her and my mom, and I simply refused to take the test, no way was I gonna be coerced to pick between the two most important women in my life, it was to me all so petty.

So my W began to defend herself when my mom would say anything critical to her. And when my ex became defensive and stood her ground THAT is when my mom started attacking her more aggressively, and THAT is when I stepped in and shut my mom down, because there was no point to her criticism and my mom needed to see that it really was hurtful. My W wanted to make it all about "positioning" and that is bogus to me, however when I saw my mom become offensive that is when I would have none of that disrespectful talk.

To me it sounds like you and your SILs are positioning right now and your H is going to let you all figure it out yourself, if his sisters actually do anything that causes you harm that is when your H should take action.
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Lon.. I'm gonna have to disagree with that. The H shouldn't let it get to that point. HE should step in beforehand. It's not a shyt test.. it's backing up your partner.. it's not about choosing between family and spouse.. it's letting your "blood" so to speak.. know that your SO is now family to you as well. I honestly don't see how people can look at it as choosing between this person or that.. it's about setting healthy boundaries and letting "blood" family know that they need to show respect to this life partner of yours.
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