Gaia

Lol falcon..... cop with a taser.... nice.... lol
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bahbahsheep

I agree with you.

Virgin = purity / innocence is just an urban myth for innocent men who thinks that they have hit the jackpot in life

Created2Write

I hadn't gone any further than kissing either. A bf of mine wanted me to try foreplay, and he asked me to on the phone, and I was like, "What's floor play?" ROFL. But he was in the military and dumped me two weeks later. Come to find out he was cheating on me at the time, and lo and behold, he'd had sex with a stripper about a year before, which he conveniently left out of any of our conversations.

I didn't actually start giving out or getting oral sex until I was twenty, and my husband was that man.

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that_girl

Yea, I didn't do oral until my mid 20s. I swear, my mom put the fear of god into me about disease. lolol.

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Mr Blunt

[I have not read this whole thread (too long) but
Sexual history does matter to every one that I have spoken to.

There are a lot of sexual histories that makes a difference. Here are just three:


1 Keeps themselves pure before marriage
(I am talking about keeping yourself pure so that you can give a gift to your spouse; keeping yourself pure for the right reasons)

2 Having an active sexual history with a very limited few; someone you really cared about when you were young, like in your teens.

3 Having an active sexual history with many partners over a period in their teens, 20s and later in life.


Number one
This one, in my opinion and a lot of other people’s opinion, gives a marriage an advantage that the others do not have. I do not know about women but every man that I talked wants a woman that can give him something that is very special that no other man has had. My guess is that most women feel the same about their man but I am not a woman so I will let the women speak for women.

I do not buy the experienced line that says that experience is an advantage over purity. I have never heard a man say, boy I am sure glad my wife had sex with those other men so that she could get the experience on how to do all those sexual acts. Conversely, I have heard a lot of men say that it really bothers them that their wife had sex with other men.

Number two
I realize that keeping your self pure is very difficult and especially when you are young and the emotions are so high and you really care about the other person. It is very understandable that a person would have sex under such circumstances. So if your wife or husband had sex with his/her teenage girlfriend/boyfriend when they cared about each other then that seems to be the norm. You can understand that but it most cases it is a very touchy subject in a marriage. I do not know many married couples that discuss their sex with their previous girlfriends/ boyfriends. That would seem to cause some real hard feelings in most.


Number three
This one has a definite disadvantage in having a long term successful marriage. Again, I do not know about women but every man that has talked to me about this says that they no not want that kind of woman for their wife and to bear their children.

I know that all three above can have a successful marriage but all things being equal, the number one has an advantage over the rest and number two has an advantage over number three.

I am sure that someone will bring up an exception but as a rule the chances of success for number three is less than for one and two. I would want all my males in my family to pick a number one first then a number two if number one is not possible. I also know that a number three can be successful but they will have many more problems as a venereal rule.

Remember I am talking abort everything being equal except the sexual history.

I think to try and make it look like sexual experience from several sex partners is an advantage over someone that is pure is a ridiculous argument for most men. How many of you men advocate sexual experience for your daughters and wife?

One of the reasons that I believe this is that I read the threads about divorce and serious relationship problems on this forum. Many of them are due to people having a lot of experience with several sexual partners for many years in their life.[/COLOR]

FalconKing

It sounds like you are speaking from a man's point of view about why it matters for types of women. I know you are a man so that's natural. I wish you had read the thread though, just to be prepared. "They" will not like this. "They" will come for you.

CandieGirl

No, 'they' will not; 'they' are pretty darned fed up of seeing this thread pop up in New Posts!

Here's to all you puritans out there!

FrenchFry

Yeah, that post was pretty vomilicious.

Sorry Falcon. I really thought people were advocating in this thread for personal preference and honesty but it really comes down to the same ol' crap.

Thundarr

Don't throw out the baby with the bath water FrenchFry. I gained a lot of insight from some well thought out comments on this thread.

Blunts comment was hit and miss. Some good, some bad.

Caribbean Man

I smell sour grapes.
Residual fumes from another parallel thread?

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Mr Blunt

To French Fry
How can you judge my post as dishonest? You do not know what I honestly believe do you? The fact of the matter is that my post is my honest opinion and I have given some basis for my position which you failed to address. Do you judge me as dishonest because I do not agree with you or does it rub you wrong for some reason?

I assume you are a woman. If you are then my question to you is why do you call a man’s opinion about a man’s thinking as “same ol crap”? Do you think you know more about what a man thinks on these issues? If you are not a woman then disregard this parargraph.

Rather than just make a general statement about my post as “vomilicious” and “same ol crap” why not give an articulate reply with specifics?


These questions are for all and not just French Fry:

1 Would you consider your wife/husband keeping g himself/herself pure as something special in the marriage?

2 Would you rather your wife/husband be experienced with other sexual partners or pure?

3 Do you think that men are looking for a woman that ha had many sexual partners in their 20s and beyond to have their children?

4 How many of you men advocate sexual experience with multiple partners for your daughters and wife?

5 How many women advocate sexual experience with multiple partners for your sons and husband?

These are some of the specific points that I had in my posts. Rather than making general sweeping statements why not post an articulate response?

Quote:

"They" will come for you.

Thanks for the warning FalconKing. However I do not mind them coming to me as long as they have a specific articulate response. Isn’t that one of the reasons that we have this forum is so that we can discuss different points of view in an intelligent way? Thanks again FalconKing.

Deejo

I have to say, much like the whole virgin debate, there comes a point where its simply moot.

I generally end up having the 'number' talk with some of the women I'm intimate with. Others I do not. So for those paying attention, that means I've had more than 2 partners.

Context is everything. If you are a young man on the prowl looking for a suitable female with which to co-mingle your genetic material, and perhaps marry for the first time, I get it.

But if like me, your marriage is in the rearview mirror, and you are in your mid-thirties to forties, than who cares?

I certainly don't. I dated one woman that had been married for 18 years. Husband was her second partner. After her marriage ended, she went on a tear. Slept with probably 8-10 men in less than 2 years.

Didn't bother me. Don't care. We swapped STD panels and went happily about our business.

Not everyone has a goal of finding the one person to whom they want to commit the remainder of their days. I plan on taking my time getting there and enjoying the journey with those who choose to share physical intimacy while we're on the search.

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Thundarr

I agree with every single bit of this comment.

HopelesslyJaded

I agree with what he said too. The hoopla is about a woman with the same mindset being judged harsher.

If my marriage goes to the crapper I have no intent to remarry. But that's beside the point of this thread.

If pure is so important I really hope you are still pretty young.

Created2Write

As a woman who has only been with my husband, while my husband has been with two other women, I can say that I certainly do wish that I had been his only. And he has said the same. He knows that the other girls weren't deserving of him. As for myself, I know how enjoyable it was to learn his body without experience with another, and I often wonder what our sex life would have been if he had been as innocent as I. That said, our marriage has had more good times than it has bad, and the longer we're with each other, the better it becomes. And his former partners have never caused any issues between us.

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