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Old 09-19-2011, 11:15 AM   #196 (permalink)
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I was sitting here thinking - hmm... what could she be thinking with this....

My thoughts today would be that she hasn't heard from Sham much at all, not even through the grapevine for the most part... what better way to initiate a conversation with Sham than through the one thing that they both love?

You are doing awesome Sham, but, as I and others have stated before, stay in control of yourself and have at least 1 backup plan if things get out of control. No use backsliding on your path forward.

Show her whose da boss!
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:22 PM   #197 (permalink)
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Jeesh. Just let her see th dogs. Not everything is a conspiracy.
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:39 PM   #198 (permalink)
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Agreed Alpha. Nothing wrong with being prepared for a "game" but it doesnt mean you have to play
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:45 PM   #199 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I dont know about that. It might be.
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:20 PM   #200 (permalink)
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Well, everything from her to me essentially has been since June.

But you make a good point, I presume she probably misses the dogs.
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:54 PM   #201 (permalink)
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Without obsessing about it, just quickly drop them off and be prepared in case of onslaught or manipulation. You'll be fine.

Just don't give in to anything. But I agree with the decision to let her see them.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:24 PM   #202 (permalink)
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It’s been awhile since I’ve posted, but I’ve been following along. You’re handling everything with such class. I wish, when you’re feeling down, you could see a crystal ball with a glimpse of your happy future – I’m certain you will find something beyond your imagination.

With regard to your STBXW’s request to see the dogs… I think it’s classy of you to offer to bring them to her, but something about it bothers me. Almost as if she feels she can snap her fingers and you’ll do just as she demands. I’m not into game playing, but I just want her to know she doesn’t have any power over you… but I think she thinks she does, make sense? I’m tired and don’t feel very articulate today.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:38 PM   #203 (permalink)
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Yea, maybe keep her off guard a bit - like be an hour early / late for dropping the dogs off - change the agreement for when you will pick them up - or just show up a day early to get them.

Something that keeps her off keel.
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Yea, maybe keep her off guard a bit - like be an hour early / late for dropping the dogs off - change the agreement for when you will pick them up - or just show up a day early to get them.

Something that keeps her off keel.
I wouldn't break the agreement because that would give her an opening to do the same. My worry is that she could use the pups as a bargaining chip, refusing to give them back. IMO, her recent dating profile was put up to anger Sham and tilt the control her way. I worry that this could be a last ditch effort to do the same.

You have it in writing or email that she wanted you to become owner of the dogs, right Sham? Even then you may have to go to court to enforce that, but it's a good start. I hope it really is just a visit because she misses them. Bring your VAR just in case.
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I wouldn't break the agreement because that would give her an opening to do the same. My worry is that she could use the pups as a bargaining chip, refusing to give them back. IMO, her recent dating profile was put up to anger Sham and tilt the control her way. I worry that this could be a last ditch effort to do the same.

You have it in writing or email that she wanted you to become owner of the dogs, right Sham? Even then you may have to go to court to enforce that, but it's a good start. I hope it really is just a visit because she misses them. Bring your VAR just in case.
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Yeah, might be good to get her to verbally agree to your pick-up time and capture that acknowledgement on VAR. Can't be too careful.
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:04 PM   #207 (permalink)
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Sham, you've were right and strong to go dark, but you don't want it too seem like you are afraid to see her or speak with her. She isn't they bogey man, or the devel. She is selfish woman who crossed boundaries willingly and got caught.

Ignore all this over thinking and conspiracy talk. Facing her and being cold and business like and not accepting any drama is the alpha way, and your way. But you have to face her. You have come too faR to start hiding behind lame excuses. When you ave had enough talk with her, just end it and leave. Alpha makes do not make excuses, nor do they explain and justify their choices. They simply do.
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:24 PM   #208 (permalink)
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OMW had asked for info on some of the texts (the ones from July and early Aug), I had to read some to do so.

Also got a text from my STBXW today saying "took the tax sh*t, eh? Let's go there."

Don't think I'll have any trouble being all business tomorrow.
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OMW had asked for info on some of the texts (the ones from July and early Aug), I had to read some to do so.

Also got a text from my STBXW today saying "took the tax sh*t, eh? Let's go there."

Don't think I'll have any trouble being all business tomorrow.
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She is such a *****. Stay classy, Shamwow.

Poor OMW. I really feel for both of you. I can't take credit for this, but saw this quote and, boy, is it true: "infidelity ain't for sissies".
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:37 PM   #210 (permalink)
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with that being said - theres a damned good chance there is a conspiracy here! Dang - theres a conspiracy everywhere!

Time to get out the tiger blood....

Just want Sham to prepare. Scenario 2 could just play out with a ploy to get Sham there with the dogs. Come on!

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