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post #31 of 41 (permalink) Old 04-20-2017, 02:03 PM
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Re: Expenses Sheet for mediation?

I never paid alimony, so no dog in that fight. I will say, make sure the alimony is limited in duration and has specified terms for ending. Based on the length your marriage, there should be no chance at permanent alimony any way.

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yes she was for 2 years this was part of our issue, I was against the idea but she did it anyway and her prior career she was earning about the same as she currently is and had pretty much topped out unless she went for a different position which she had no intention or desire to do. No burden was really taken from me since when i got home everything was my problem as she needed a break.

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She is getting 50% rolled over into hers and cashing out the other 50% plus any left over cash I had as her share of house equity so i did not have to sell and can keep it, I like the house and want the kids to keep some stability. She barely has a thing because she never paid into it.



yes she requires no further training for her Job just needs more time and experience.



I was hoping that would cover all the criteria to not pay any additional Alimony, Cobra is manageable for her and can last for 36 months to get a private plan the costs quoted have been astronomical.

Children will be remaining on my healthcare.
If she has a job, why doesn't she have health care at her job?

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How long does she think she will get alimony?

So she worked most of the marriage and was off only 2 years? When were these two years? Did she work full time?

I think a consult with an attorney or two is a good idea. Some attorneys will give half hour to one hour free consult. They do it in hopes that you hire them. Get some free consults and pay for one or two. They would be able to tell you what the local courts/judges will most likely do. Then you can push in mediation for whatever resolution they think the court is most likely to impose on you if you go to court.

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If she has a job, why doesn't she have health care at her job?
She can but it is 4 times the cost of my current plan

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She can but it is 4 times the cost of my current plan
Even 4 times the cost of COBRA? COBRA is usually extremely expensive.

Has she looked on the ACA market?

A friend of mine had to get her own health insurance for a while. She was paying $518 a month for both her and her son. Her COBRA was much more expensive than that. So if your wife's employer insurance is more expensive than those number, YIKES

Make sure that what you pay in her COBRA is considered part of her alimony if she gets any.

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Even 4 times the cost of COBRA? COBRA is usually extremely expensive.

Has she looked on the ACA market?

A friend of mine had to get her own health insurance for a while. She was paying $518 a month for both her and her son. Her COBRA was much more expensive than that. So if your wife's employer insurance is more expensive than those number, YIKES

Make sure that what you pay in her COBRA is considered part of her alimony if she gets any.
She is looking at ACA.

Yes COBRA was actually quite reasonable her company plan was obscene. I really hope this can be instead of Alimony.

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Does your state end spousal support if she co-habitates?

How to deal with an unrepentant spouse: an Irish person can tell a person to go to hell and have them so excited at the prospect they demand to know when, where the train is leaving and how to get a ticket. Then offer them a loan to get the ticket and a ride to the train station. Be Irish
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Does your state end spousal support if she co-habitates?
Good Question I am not sure but need to find out.

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If yes, don't share with her that info.

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Impact of Cohabitation on Alimony in Arizona

Cohabitation occurs when an ex-spouse enters a relationship with a new live-in partner to whom he or she is not married. While there is no bright-line definition of “cohabitation” in Arizona, generally the more closely the relationship resembles a marriage, the more likely the court will call it cohabitation.

Spousal maintenance won’t end immediately if a court decides a supported spouse is cohabitating. Rather, if an obligor spouse is able to prove cohabitation, then a court will look at the financial circumstances of the spouses to decide if a reduction in support is appropriate. Generally, a judge will reduce alimony by the same amount of money a cohabitating partner is contributing to a supported spouse.
Impact of Remarriage on Alimony

Supported Spouse’s Remarriage

A supported spouse’s remarriage will ring in the end of alimony. In limited circumstances, a divorce order may allow spousal maintenance to continue after a spouse has re-wed. Nevertheless, in all other cases, a supported spouse’s remarriage will terminate alimony automatically.

Even if a new marriage is later annulled or declared invalid, any alimony award that was extinguished by the remarriage can’t be reinstated. Nevertheless, if an obligor spouse continues to pay alimony, not knowing that a supported spouse has remarried, he or she will be entitled to a fund of any monies paid after the date of remarriage.

Remarriage and Alimony in Arizona | DivorceNet.com


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You may find an attorney with a free consultation. It's crucial you know the laws if it comes to that. Cohabitation maybe key.

You owe her nothing so keep all your knowledge to yourself. Let her figure it out on her own.

If you need cash pawn your wedding ring. If she's taken hers off pawn those too. Swear you haven't seen it.

Hun, it's up to keep up with your stuff.
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