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I have nothing against naturism, per se, provided it's an adult couple who is doing it willingly in an appropriate legal venue, where they would not be in danger of bothering other people. But when they start bringing minors or children into it under the warped guise of trying to go about educating them about that particular subject~well, sorry; that's where I fastly draw the line.

I don't even like the rationale of those legal nudist family encampments that are so prevalent in the world today. I really feel that subjecting kids to that at such an impressionable age could be far more detrimental to their mental well being than for their purported common good!

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I want the kids!

Well my daughter confirmed that she was outside picking flowers naked. Of course she is only 5 so I don't know how that would work as far as evidence. Also I don't really want to use my daughter like that unless I absolutely have no other choice.

As for the OM he has not been nude around my kids as far as I know. From the recording I believe my WW and 2 kids were naked outside in the backyard. No one could see them out back as we live on an acrage but it is still weird. I also think based on the recording that my wife took pictures and sent them to the OM. I don't know if the pictures were of WW or WW and the kids or just the kids.

I don't have enough proof I'm afraid but will send my lawyer a note about it and probably call the CPS and ask them about it.

I want the kids!

I was just thinking how F'ed up my life has gotten in 5 weeks. How does this happen? I mean really WTF!!

I was living the dream. On the way to owning my home. had a car and motorcycle that both run. great family. IRA that was funded regularly so I could hope to retire when I was old and couldn't work. I had it all. Not rich or anything but had everything also. If you know what I mean.

Now I have to deal with my WW talking all night on the phone to OM. Her not doing crap around the house. Worrying what she is doing during the day while I'm stuck at work. I have to work to make everything possible.

I just feel like poo, a big pile of poo!!

2nd_t!me iz_best

if you can get proof ww sent nude pics to om, i believe she can get in trouble for trafficking child porn and him for receiving child porn.
i dont think this has anything to do with nudists or nudism at all.
it has to do with om wanting to see naked children and somehow has convinced ww that it is ok under the guise of being nudists.

you know there have been many stories come out where women have offered their children up to their 'boyfriends' in order to keep that man around.
be very careful with your children with this man in ww life.

jtut21

Certainly unusual this is definitely a tough one. I know that people have some different ideas but this is not something that I think should be exposed to children.

I want the kids!

Yeah, as a kid and adult I have pee'd outside from time to time and it is nice to feel the breeze but I think this is messed up. Peeing by yourself or in private while others in your group pee is different than this for sure.

I don't really have extra cash but I may have to call a pro. PI I mean. There are some listed in the phone book so I guess that is on my list for tomorrow.

Doing all this digging around and reviewing the recordings etc while at work has slowed me down some but my boss seems to be cool for now. I don't think I have slacked off too much but some for sure.

This is almost like some crazy crap you would see on cable or something!?

Maybe I can sell my story in the future to help pay for college. HAHA

Lon

if you see any concrete proof, such as your own eyewitness account, or the account of any other eyewitnesses, or any photos in your W's email that were sent or uploaded to any website or server, or any other kind of tangible evidence of images of your kids naked being sent to this male person, don't bother with PI go straight to police, no way would I let images of my child be used for some pervs gratification, that is clearly child pornography (or as I prefer to call it just child sexual abuse caught on film)

In fact I wouldn't hesitate, call the police now, tell them your situation and get some advice from some investigator that deals with child porn, they will probably run a background on this guy and if there is anything there will give you a head's up I'm sure.

I want the kids!

Believe me if I had proof everyone would know by now. I would hate to possibly hurt my kids by getting their mom arrested but if that is what it takes I guess that is what I would do.

It is hard to think clearly about that, getting my kids mom arrested?

Sad Sad Sad...

Hope1964

That guy sounds like a total whack job.

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papa5280

Bottom line:

A) You and your spouse want to be naked in an appropriate setting? Cool beans.

B) You, your spouse want to be naked along with YOUR kids, in a legal setting? OK...that's a little squishy, but might still fall within the bounds of a legitimate lifestyle choice.

C) You want the woman you're seeing and her kids to run around naked, and get pictures of the nude kids? That's immoral, almost certainly illegal, and a major, major problem.

BTW, have you looked for the man on the sex offender registry at National Sex Offender Registry - Family Watchdog ? If not, I would.

jenny123

In addition to the recorder, you need to install a few "nanny cams" around the house. That would be your solid proof.

I want the kids!

I don't think anything is going on at our house. From the recordings it sounds like the guy is worried about me. My WW actually said "you worry about baby daddy more than I do"

I really hate being called "baby daddy".

I talked to a PI today and he said the recordings are illegal in IA. Also the e-mail documents I have may not be legal either.
I asked my lawyer to check into it more. Makes me worry that all the evidence I have isn't going to do any good. And I may get in trouble if I try to use it.

Living in hell....

jenny123

Sorry, but I had to chuckle when I read that comment about "baby daddy". That is such a Jerry Springer term. I don't blame you for hating that.

That stinks that you won't be able to use the evidence you have. Surely there must be a way to use that against her. I hope your lawyer gives you some good news.

I want the kids!

Took half day from work Fri to go see the lawyer again. After that I staked out my house and got pictures of my family outside nude. My daughter painted my WW all over. Not real sure how to feel about this. So weird.

Thor

OM involved in any way with this event you photographed?