So it seems the OM is pushing my wife to do more and more nude. I mean like sunbath outside nude. Play with the kids outside nude, kids nude too. Is this a life style or is this guy nuts? WW also was looking into a nudist colony for a vacation with OM.
She also told the OM that she gave both kids a bath together and I questioned it and she said because she wanted to and I stormed off. Then later told her I was disappointed etc. And yes I posted that my wife bathed the kids together the other day but I wasn't there and the time she is talking about now I was there and it was my daughter only bathing.
Why would she make up a story of doing this and then make me out to be the bad guy?
She is also talking about doing the nude outside thing again and painting the kids etc. As I type this I'm thinking "free love" hippy craziness. Maybe the OM is older and is reliving his hippy past?
I have got to figure out how to get pictures of this for court.
Listening to the recordings is driving me a bit crazy maybe...
But I have to get all the dirt I can to gain custody.
Ok. Hire a lawyer and don't rest until you get something saying this guy, the OM can't be near your kids. This is dangerous and careless on your ex's part.
It's crazy. It's sickening. If he wants to walk around naked, that's his business. But don't involve others who are too young to make their own decisions.
The sad thing is from the little info i gathered (over heard on recordings) the OM works with kids in some way. Massage thereapy or some sort of nurse job? I need to figure out this guy some how.
Yeah, you better make sure this guy is legit, there are some serious indicators of appropriate behavior especially around children, double especially around your own. I hope for your kids sake he is just a happy free spirit and not some kind of predator - priority number one for you is serious investigation and background check.
Don't mean to make you feel bad but Thank god I'm not dealing with this kind of situation. This would make me go nuts. So freakin perv guy around my kids. We are here for you but most importantly go get that lawyer PRONTO.
Going from "love of my life, the only woman I have ever known" To "super perv ****" I have hardened my heart a lot. I still break down some when listening to the recorded info or before when I found more bad evidence but I am still holding it together, willing to fight as hard as I need to for my kids. One of the people I have told some of these things to eluded to me shooting this guy. I told him no way would that work because I wouldn't be with my kids in jail. He went on to say if it was the OM or my kids I wouldn't shoot the OM in the leg or something. I told him if push came to shove and it was a situation where my kids could get hurt etc I would do what I needed to but keeping in the law as best I could. I don't carry a weapon or keep any loaded in the house so it would be hard to come to that anyway. I might try to use my bare hands if need be though.
I have posted this before too, I am cool as a cucumber.
This post is not meant to make anyone worry. I am keeping my wits about me.
Get a background investigation. Make sure it is thorough.
Hire a guardian ad litem.
File a statement of your concern with Child Protective Services, have it notarized before sending it.
Keep a journal of what is said and what you directly observe.
Take the children for a medical examination.
Make sure it is thorough and you discuss your concerns with the physician. That way, if anything physical happens to the children you will have before and after documentation.
Also, take the children to a psychotherapist. That person can do observation to assess the children and it will be age appropriate.
Get a background investigation. Make sure it is thorough.
Hire a guardian ad litem.
File a statement of your concern with Child Protective Services, have it notarized before sending it.
Keep a journal of what is said and what you directly observe.
Take the children for a medical examination.
Make sure it is thorough and you discuss your concerns with the physician. That way, if anything physical happens to the children you will have before and after documentation.
Also, take the children to a psychotherapist. That person can do observation to assess the children and it will be age appropriate.
Absolutely get a lawyer and yes this is something for CPS to look into. They will investigate this.
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I practice naturism (nudism) myself but I agree that the POSOM should not be trying to get YOUR kids or YOUR wife into it. Call CPS and nail the both of them.
Yeah this is totally completely over the line. Getting kids involved makes it a crime.
In my state it would be a "Forcible Felony", which makes the application of deadly force legal. I would be so sorely tempted to take full advantage of the law if it were my kids some other man was not only exposing himself to but trying to get my kids to undress in front of him!!!
This guy needs to be shut down ASAP before he molests your kids.
I think he can probably be okay without a lawyer. It sounds like he is in the right and the state will appoint a lawyer for the kids. Getting a lawyer at this point will make him look like he is being vicious about a 'difference in parenting styles'. Plus, lawyers hold things up. A guardian ad litem though will advocate for the children, not for either party. Getting an attorney is seen as attacking the other parent, and if there is an OM sorry but it just looks like he is bent out of shape and making up stories. If there are few facts, there is little an attorney can do but refer to the state child protective services or arrange for a guardian ad litem. They might be required to make a report...but legally there is not much they can do and if the state will do it for free why delay things by having to use an attorney, as well as get dug into an expensive legal fight where you have to 'parlay' with POS's attorney. The best thing is to minimize contact and dialog. If the guy is doing what is described, dialog is the last thing you want to do. Attorney's dialog, they do it in court, and it costs money and ends up in mediation or settlement or whatever. They make some kind of agreement and then it has to be re-filed to change. That's bad news.
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nudist? Another request for opinions please. 
