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Old 05-18-2009, 09:21 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Here is an email that I sent my wife on Friday. I'm not giving up exactly but I have to be proactive in the sense of moving forward but leaving the door open at the same time. It's very easy for me to slip into my depression again if I feel like a victim. By at least sending this email I feel that I have some control with my life. I would really really appreciate anyone's thoughts on the email that I sent if you would take the time to read it. I know it's long but it's very important. Thanks

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After thinking about things more I understand now that you haven't forgiven me. I think meeting in a neutral location or meeting with our therapist together would have been a better approach so that we both could have had guidance to deal with our emotions and issues. I know that you need to heal at your own pace. I made an assumption that you were further along with processing your anger and hurt and I didn't realize the depths of your fears and apprehension that night. I feel that we have much love for each other but it would take a decision from both of us to move beyond the past. I understand that you would have to be ready in your own time. I know it's very hard for you to move past the fact that I made these changes after you moved out. I do know that's a hard thing for you to accept, but I feel if one day you could accept that real changes did happen with me when you made that decision I think it would help you get to a point of moving past some of the hurt even if you still didn't see us working through it together. You have to do that on your own time. I know that you have been hurting and I have as well more than you know. I also know that it doesn't matter what anyone else ever thinks about what happened with us or our marriage. It's between you and I and that's all that will ever matter.



When you sent the email to reach out I was so happy and apprehensive at the same time. I didn't commit to it and say yes come over because I was also very scared of getting hurt and opening up my heart so I thought maybe a few days would allow us time to really think. While I was thinking over the weekend I decided that I did really want to move forward with opening up and trying to heal. I'm sorry I mis construed what your intentions were when you came over. It must have made you feel scared and very apprehensive to move towards opening up when you talked with me. I assumed that you were at a point of wanting to put the past behind us and move forward with healing each other. I understand that it takes more time for that to happen and you don't feel that you are ready and may never feel that you are. I do hope that you some day work through your anger, resentment and hurt towards me even if we aren't together. I think maybe in time when and if you feel ready that talking with someone yourself will help you to process your feelings. I truly feel that it helped me to process what I was feeling and allow me to move beyond what was holding me back as a person.



I would like you to know that you did see a little of the new happy ****. I would love to make things work between the both of us and end the misery that we are going through and be able to have a new start, but I can understand that you don't see that being able to happen because of the pain that you are harboring. Like I said I do hope that one day you can at least not feel the pain and the anger when you think of me or our marriage. I also hope that one day you will understand that it was never my intent to hurt you or jeopardize our marriage. I will respect your wishes and move on with our divorce. It will take me a month or two to be able to save some money to get it started. If you find a way to have it done another way and would like it done sooner I will understand.



I sent this to you because I didn't like the way that we said goodbye. I know that I was upset and those were my true emotions that just came out. I hope you know that I am and will be ok. I only truly wish the best for you with everything in your life. You are such an amazing person I can't put it into words. Please don't work yourself too hard with ***** and *****. I wish you nothing but the best with those two ventures and hope that **** flourishes with you as the chef, I know it will if you have anything to say about it. Please don’t over work yourself.



You will always have a place in my heart.
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:54 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Sinatra,

I think that was a great letter. One I hope I won't need for myself in the future. You were very positive about your future for yourself and her without being whiny or anything. I saw no pressure that you put on her and no hostilities -- only positive and reassuring words. Did you receive a response?
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Old 05-18-2009, 11:56 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Thanks Feelingalone, I have not received a response from her. I don't know if I'll get one at this point. I think she doesn't want to hurt me if she is waffling back and forth. I'm not sure if she'll reach out anymore which is hard to accept since I know she's just confused at this point. I hope it didn't seem to final to her but I can't do anything about how she reacts to it.

I miss her terribly and it I just want to reach out to her, but I know that's not what I should do. I'm thinking with my heart when I want to and not my head I believe.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:39 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Here is my supposition:

Your wife feels overwhelmed by your emotional baggage. It can be challenging to love someone struggling with depression. It sucks the life out of you. You become so caught up in being emotionally available to your partner – that the other partners well-being can become lost, diminished, overlooked.

Even worse, if you are the supporting partner – you provide support, encouragement, a positive outlook, love – and the distressed partner challenges it, minimizes it, or ignores it. At the absolute worst? It grows into a parasitic co-dependent relationship. The only way that the distressed partner feels validated is by continuously challenging the supportive partners commitment.

I’m not saying this is the case with you, Sinatra. But I will break it down in very simple terms:
Don’t make your wife responsible for your happiness and sense of well-being. Don’t ever make someone else responsible for your happiness. She may contribute to, or detract from it – but she doesn’t own it. You do. It’s yours. Be selfish with it.

The more you take care of you – the more attractive you become to her. It’s that simple.
The less you seek out contact with her, you begin to increase the likelihood that she will seek contact with you. Odds are, that she really does still love you – but if she does not perceive that there is a light at the end of the emotional well-being tunnel for you – then she remains overwhelmed and over-burdened.
The empowering piece of taking care of yourself is that you exponentially decrease the desire or ‘need’ to have someone else take care of you (figuratively, from an emotional perspective). Instead of pursuing the object of your desire feeling compelled to make them ‘see’ that you love them, and ultimately pushing them away – you remove the emphasis on ‘them’ and make it about you. By seeing to your own needs, (addressing your mother’s death, employment, your health, your mental well-being) you reduce your dependence on her. In classic human fashion, the less she feels you need her – the more likely she is to want to be there for you. Crazy – but in my professional opinion, this is 100% fact. I should point out that my profession has nothing to do with relationships or emotional well-being.

What makes choosing this path the best decision you can make regardless of the outcome, is that by taking these steps, you increase the likelihood for reconciliation, and if reconciliation doesn’t occur, you are still better prepared to face that challenge as well.

Your wife left to take care of herself – in what you have written, I get the impression that it was not an easy decision for her. You need to emotionally separate from her, and do the same – take care of yourself.
Here are two more tacky affirmations you can apply to your situation:

“Nothing changes if nothing changes.” (What you are doing is not going to get you the results you are looking for)
Don’t focus on finding the right person. Focus on being the right person. (You reap what you sow. If you are emotionally healthy, grounded, confident and happy, you are much more appealing than captain Emo)

I’m not trying to at all make light of the seriousness of your circumstances, or appear crass about your suffering, I have experienced much of the same. Take what I have offered with a grain of salt. It’s an opinion. Mash up a bunch of opinions – and make something that works for you. I wish you well.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:46 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Deejo you're amazing! Thank you so much for putting so much time and thought into your response. I think I have read it about 5 times so far. It really spoke to me and helped me get past this trying day. Can't thank you enough. If you wouldn't mind checking in from time to time on my post I would greatly appreciate all the input that you would want to give.

Thanks again for taking the time to respond in that manner.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:31 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Sinatra,
Ever hear anything back from her?
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Old 05-24-2009, 12:34 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I haven't heard a thing. Silence on both sides. I'm expecting the next response will be her asking for the rest of her stuff or commenting on what she needs to do to complete the divorce.

I've been just living my life and work is going well. I'm also trying to refi my house. Most of the pain has gone away since I've just decided to really just move forward. I hope she may change her mind down the line but I'm not very hopeful at this point. I don't plan on contacting her for a couple months.

I find it a little strange that she hasn't contacted me since I sent the email??
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Old 05-26-2009, 04:44 PM   #53 (permalink)
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It's funny as as soon as I thought the pain was going away it comes back in full force! I thought I was further along with all this and the pain has been so immense the past two days that I wanted to reach out to her and ask if she would go to counseling. I think I'm just curious why she hasn't responded to that email with a I need to get my stuff or let me know about the divorce and what I need to do.

I know I shouldn't be trying to read minds here, but why wouldn't someone try and get the rest of their stuff or say let's go forward with the divorce after I sent that email??

Any possible insight would be helpful. Of course I know it doesn't matter in the end but I'm just sitting here in disbelief this crap is happening the way that it is.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:38 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Same here Sinatra...I asked the hubby on Friday if he would go to counseling he flat out refused it's like he knows we can make it but doesn't want anyone to prove it to him right now because he's having too much fun w/the freedom or something. Hell I don't know I have all kinds of things running through my mind. Hubby and I have known each other for 11 years we have a long history I imagine we'll always be a part of each other's lives even though we have no children together we just have that bond. It's crazy I'm in constant disbelief as well...I'm like wtf?! Really?! is this really happening?! I know in my heart of hearts this is going to kick him in the a$$ one day I guess I just figured it'd happen sooner than later. I have no desire to be with anyone else absolutely none. I'm so confused I'm at such a loss for words that I'm rambling at the moment sorry.
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It's funny as as soon as I thought the pain was going away it comes back in full force! I thought I was further along with all this and the pain has been so immense the past two days that I wanted to reach out to her and ask if she would go to counseling. I think I'm just curious why she hasn't responded to that email with a I need to get my stuff or let me know about the divorce and what I need to do.

I know I shouldn't be trying to read minds here, but why wouldn't someone try and get the rest of their stuff or say let's go forward with the divorce after I sent that email??

Any possible insight would be helpful. Of course I know it doesn't matter in the end but I'm just sitting here in disbelief this crap is happening the way that it is.
So no contact w/her at all?
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Old 05-26-2009, 06:51 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Yes Rhea no contact at all. I sent the email and I haven't heard a thing from her and I haven't attempted contact. I really was just trying to find some kind of closure for myself by sending that what I find has happened is that I guess I was wanting some kind of response. Whether it be yes move forward with the divorce or I need to get my stuff. I just don't understand it, I guess she may be waiting to let things cool off and then ask for the rest of her stuff. Who the hell knows!! I'm just sitting her again in disbelief as to what has happened.
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I'm totally w/you Sinatra, you're in my thoughts.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:22 AM   #58 (permalink)
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I feel like I made a mistake by just cutting her off with the email. It sounds very final and I don't think that she would ever feel comfortable reaching out at this point even if she wanted to.

Do you all think that if she did want to reach out she would after reading that letter? I guess I'm just worried about too much time slipping away. I'm also very concerned about how much I've regressed this week. It's like I don't want to get out of bed anymore. I felt like I was doing so much better until this weekend and this week.
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:47 AM   #59 (permalink)
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My closest friend passed away last night suddenly. She had trouble breathing in the morning and was complaining of back pain. They called 911 and they admitted her into the ICU as soon as she arrived. She was having a lot of breathing problems and in pain. They put her on a ventilator and a few hours later she flat lined. They were able to revive her and we were hoping for the best. She ended up flat lining 4 more times and was losing oxygen to her brain. They couldn't stabilize her and they made decision to not revive her if it happened again.

She was my number one support system and such a great friend to ton of people. I just spent the weekend with her and laughing with her. Now in less than 24 hours died. It's just a complete and utter shock.

One of my friends called my wife and let her know. She ended up calling me and telling me how sorry she was. She asked if she should could come to the funeral. I let her know that I didn't see why not. After thinking about it I'm not sure it's such a good idea. I really believe that she wants to come for the right reasons, however I don't want it to set me back. I would think that if she really gave a crap she would have offered to call and check up on me or reach out a little more than she did.

I'm just concerned about what to do and if I should let her know that I don't think it's a good idea that she comes to the funeral. What are everyone's thoughts.

I really miss my friend and she was taken away from everyone so suddenly. You just never know how things happen or what is coming next.
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:15 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I decided to let my wife go ahead and go to the service. I just sent her the info and she said that she will be there.

I'm not going to let my selfish thoughts of how she's treating me get in the way of someone that may really want to pay their respects to someone. I guess it's just her only way to support me during all this as well.

It really doesn't matter in the long run because I miss my best friend more than anything right now. Unfortunately my wife is not in the picture or my concern for the time being. My friends and her family are who I'm truly concerned with at this point.
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