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Old 05-16-2009, 08:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok a little background on my story. There had been some ups and downs. My husband is very closed down emotionally. If you ask him to sit down and talk about things that have gone wrong or could be improved upon he freaks out and says "Everything's fine, why do you always want to talk"? I'm a huge talker, I always want to talk about what happened, why, and how I can fix it. What can I do for you type of person.

So my husband does this in and out thing. He'll be really into our marriage and happier than all get out then he pulls out, no talking, no sex, doesn't want to go anywhere, he just goes to work, sits at the computer and plays Wow then goes to bed. Next day rinse and repeat until he comes out of his phase. I've always stuck by him because I know eventually this "phase" passes. However I came to realize that every time he'd go through a "phase" it would take a little piece of me w/it. I started to think does he love me and am I "worth" it to him?

So in December of this year I finally said to him either this vicious cycle has to end or we need to get divorced. This phasing you do breaks off a little bit of me each time you do it. Now I never really wanted to get divorced. Me putting it on the table was my way of finding out whether he loved me enough to quit this cycle or if he didn't and would "walk" when the door was held open for him. So I drop the bomb on him and he freaks out. I go outside proceed to call my Mom and a few close friends. I talked to my best friend (whom lives 4 doors down from us) then I go back inside. I find my husband off the computer (Shock) and on the couch sitting in the complete dark listening to music. We sit there in silence me watching him for a while because I'm seeing more "emotion" in him than I ever have. Finally I say "What do you think I should do?" he responds with "You are the only thing that matters to me I will do anything not to lose you." I'll even go to counseling (another shocker) I looked him straight in the face (bawling of course because this is exactly what I wanted to hear, that I mattered, that he loved me as much as I loved him, and that he'd do w/e not to lose me) Any way I tell him not to say it if he doesn't mean it. I find out later that he had told my best friends husband that he wasn't going to let me walk away etc.

That being said I was gung ho ready to go, I heard what I needed to hear and of course as I always do I open right back up and believe it all. I love this man more than I've ever loved anyone I'd do anything for him and for us.

Anyway fast forward two weeks and he comes to me and says I don't think its going to work. I'm completely shocked and blind sighted. I'm like what?! You said I was the only thing that mattered that you'd do anything to lose me etc. I'm like what about the counseling we haven't tried anything yet? He says I'm not going it won't help. I'm not "feeling" anything anymore. I'm completely shocked in how you can go from doing anything and telling someone they are the only thing that matters to you to not being willing to do anything at all period.

So two weeks later my husband moves out. He tells me he's confused. Here we are 5 months later, for the first few months he went w/the confused business. We talked alot he went back and forth alot from I'm going to work it out w/you to its never going to work w/you because somethings missing and never tells me "what" is missing. I've told him honestly that I think he has depression issues. I've always asked him to talk to someone about it because he's so closed down emotionally.

He now has his own apartment. I miss him like hell. I love him to pieces I don't want this divorce at all. I haven't gotten any answers as to why this is happening other than the I don't feel it BS. He tells me I did nothing wrong. That I was a good wife. We've talked about having things in common, good sex, I have always been faithful never cheated on him etc. I'm like if you know you have all of that why are you not willing to save it? It makes no sense to me. I feel like we're doing this with no good reason and I'm miserable. I don't understand at all.

Recently his work has made him see a psych and they've put him on Zoloft. But he's still on the you didn't do anything wrong its all me trip. He'll still tell you he has it all but isn't willing do anything about it. I try to talk to him and I just end up being pissed off and telling him he's foul and I don't understand how he can treat people the way he does. I thought him talking to a psych and being on meds would help. It's only be a few weeks w/the meds and the psych. I keep hoping that time will help him realize. But he won't spend any time w/me won't even tell me where his new apt is...nothing. I try not to call/text and I'll be ok for a bit then he'll find some reason to text me and it all flares up and I'm a wreck again. W/o talking to him I can hide the wreck that I am from everyone but those who "know" me.

We have a court date for the 25th of June (he filed I signed some internet do it yourself divorce papers back in Feb) thought those papers were only good for 60 days and was excited once we got past that mark, but I guess they're good for longer since I just got a letter addressed to him w/the court date inside of it.

Any insight would help. Tell me why he'd fully admit that I did nothing wrong and that he has everything and knows that a majority of this and him losing whatever it is that he calls not feeling it anymore....why he wouldn't do something about it and fix what he knows he has. Especially when he knows I'll stand by him no matter how rough the road or long it is. After I'm willing to work on us when I know some of the "things" he's done since he's been gone. I guess I don't understand why he can knowing say that he has all of these things and that he knows he is why we are in this perdicament and he won't work on himself and put himself back into it. I know we can work and I know we are meant to be. He was my best friend and husband prior to kicking me in the a$$ with this craziness. I just want my husband, lover, best friend back. I'm miserable w/o him and don't know why he won't put the effort back in but finds the energy to text me, call, or whatnot when he knows its going to give me renewed hope etc....ok I'm rambling
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My wife is doing to me exactly what your husband did to you. Never spoke to me about problems, never went to couseling, blames me for everything, wont talk to me, wont work on us, acts like this whole thing is just a day in the life, only thinks about herself and her needs not mine or my kids. Sorry you are dealing with this I know how it hurts.
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Rhea-

This is a tough one. I think Dr. Tracy covers it well in her broken popcorn machine parable: "Ask Dr. Tracy" Love Library

Also, psychoactive drugs seldom fix people. They can sometimes help manage the symptoms, and for some people the result is almost perfect. But if you want a genuine repair, drug therapy as it stand does not deliver unless the drug just happens to contain a chemical the nervous system was lacking.

So I guess I am saying you need to face the reality of what is really going on. The only thing that will work for him is if he suddenly wants to take control of his own destiny. It's all about the will to live, and the will to live well.
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes I know the drugs are not a stand alone fix for him. I guess I'm just hoping that they will "facilitate" change as they are intended.

I'm just missing him like h3ll and yes it does hurt very deep. I don't have the capacity to understand what the heck he is doing. I just want to stand by him while he "fixes" himself but that doesn't seem to matter to him right now. He just seems so detached. It's crazy I really can't comprehend it at all.

That "popcorn" analogy does hit home.

I just keep praying he continues to see the psych and that he'll come around before it's too late. Maybe I'm fooling myself I don't know. I love the man so much and to just give up (which obviously I'm unable to do at the moment) seems to be abandoning him which I can't bring myself to do.
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My husband did the EXACT same thing... down to playing WoW.... I still am lost about him and what he's doing...
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Old 05-19-2009, 02:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So just a small update. Yesterday morning I woke up and as I do every morning while waiting for my daughter to get ready for school I do the email, MySpace, Facebook, (and recently forum check here) and I read a status on Facebook from my H's cousin that says "Please pray for our family, our hearts hurt, my cousin passed away in a car wreck last night"

Now surely someone would have called me if it was my hubby or his sister...but it just gave me this unsettling feeling in my gut and I knew my day wouldn't be right until I knew. (Recently I've been a mess worrying about H because of recently being put on meds for depression and drinking on top of them. He's no alocholic not a daily basis drinker, but does turn to it when he doesn't want to deal w/something.) Anyway w/the drinking and depression meds it freaks me out he's going to do something drastic or something. So I call my SIL she doesn't answer so after about 5 minutes I decide I'm going to call my H. He's very rude and says I've woken him up etc. I apologize for waking him in hopes that he'll understand I just needed to hear his voice and know that he was ok. Anyway so I say a quick Sorry and hang up. I proceed to follow this up w/a text saying it's not necessary to be an a$$ I just called so I'd know. He doesn't respond. I send a couple more (bad I know, sometimes I just don't know when to stop) and all I get in response is I'm sleeping sheesh.

Later that day I speak w/my SIL she calls me back. She tells me what happened. (Their uncle's daughter passed but that my hubby didn't know yet.) I guess he just got up and went to work as normal. It strikes me as really odd that he'd get a phone call like that from me in the morning and just go back to bed. Not call anyone and see what's going on or anything...
Anyway I guess he found out after work last night. I debated back and forth all day as to whether I should send him a "Sorry for your loss text." Finally I gave in and did. He said he was fine I asked him if he wanted to talk or maybe some company promising not to talk about us etc. He refused. Ouch. Said he was just going to drink and go to bed. Of course I responded to that w/a please don't drink yourself into a stupid mess text. Then I called (ugh my self control leaves much to be desired) I have a hard time w/the show him you're fine w/o him and he'll come around method. I'm trying hard on a daily basis to work on that. I just get to missing him so much and it's all out the window.

Anyway phone call ends w/me hanging up on him. Which is about the norm these days because I always ask too many questions and the more I ask the more it frustrates him and the more mean he is which upsets me more. So...I hung up and sent a text that said I'm sorry I bothered you this evening, I know it's rude to just hang up but when you get mean it instantly brings tears to my eyes and I just can't handle it. Sorry for your loss and if you need anything you know I'm here.

My biggest problem is dealing w/his depression and how his emotions and ability to detach himself from people works. I'm the type of person that even if I cause "warrented" "valid" drama I still feel bad for the drama it causes. He's the type that's so detached he's like whatever I don't care yadda yadda, I don't know if this is a cover up or what because he's so mean and detached but then it gets to a point and he contacts me or what not. Some people say its him playing games or doing the keeping you holding on thing. To me it's like he tries to cover up what he's really feeling and he's got to keep up w/the scenario he created when he's around others but when he's actually alone he can't keep his thoughts or emotions in check and does miss me and us and breaks down and calls or texts.

Thoughts anyone? Sorry if it's mumbled or disconnected thoughts let me know if you need clarification on anything...
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Hey....this sounds familiar!

Depression is tricky... medication can help with counseling. However, medication alone isn't as good. It often takes several weeks to meet opt. dosage. Not all anti-depressants work well with all....so finding the right fit isn't always easy.

Anyway, encourage counseling. Perhaps get some recommendations from others and slip him a note with the name and numbers. Do it in a caring way. Tell him "whatever happens with us I want you happy and healthy." Do what it takes.

If his workplace noticed his depression, it is serious. Help him get the help he needs.

It's hard to work on a marriage if a person is depressed. It's hard to feel anything else but the depression.

Take it from me, I've walked in the darkness.
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Just thinking of and missing the hell out of my husband this morning so thought I'd come here. Can't call him it will just end with me being a wreck so came here instead....here's lyrics from a song that make me think of the things I'd do for him

"Lay Your World On Me"

I know you think you're all alone
I haven't been there when you've needed me
I didn't deserve the love you gave
But now I'm telling you I'm here if you need a friend

Give me your pain
Give me your anger
Let me be your rock
I can be the pillar of strength that you need
I'll help you keep it all together
It's better late than never
Lay your world on me
I can take the weight

Don't let it twist you up inside
Time never fails to make the heartache stop
You've got to let those feelings go
I'll give you everything I can if you say the word

Give me your pain
Give me your anger
Let me be your rock
I can be the pillar of strength that you need
I'll help you keep it all together
It's better late than never
Lay your world on me
I can take the weight

We all laugh and we all cry
We all hurt the same inside
We all fall down and we lose faith in who we really are
But if we bend instead of break
The choice for us is to make it together
Lay your world on me

I'll help you keep it all together
It's better late than never
Lay your world on me
Lay your world on me
Lay your world on me
I can take the weight

Ozzy Osborne

Don't take it literal word for word, I did deserve his love Still do, so confused I was there for him...depression SUCKS I feel like it's stolen my husband from me and he's yet to realize that.

Ok sigh done posting before this becomes a MASSIVE pity party. Sorry just feeling blue today.
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Rhea I'm right where you are this morning. The weekend was awful as well. I was depressed and it also ruined my marriage. I'm on the other side of where you are.

It took everything in me to not contact her this weekend. It's even difficult to type this out and you're right it does seem like a pity party at this point.

I'm sorry you're going through this and feeling so much pain. I know it get's better but that doesn't help us now does it.

My wife was coming back and then decided against it so that was the hardest thing that I've had to endure. It's hard to stop the thoughts that she's maybe hurting and just not reaching out to me for whatever reason.

Hang in there Rhea you're so not alone.
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I miss him so much. His illness pulled him away from me and now he's acting like I'm just another woman. I love this man more than I could ever imagine. I thought this would just be short lived and he'd come home but he's seeing other women which hurts so bad, so much that I can't even put it into words but he tells me that he cares for me and trusts me more than I'll ever know. I just don't understand how he can help himself and do nothing when it comes to us. It just seems like he ran because it was easier than working on us...I keep thinking he'll have a revelation but it just isn't happening. I'm trying so hard not to contact him because all it does is cause me pain. I'm trying to so hard to follow the "If you love someone let them go, if they come back it was meant to be, if they don't they were never yours to begin with" but that just leaves me thinking that he never really was mine. His depression is something he's dealt w/for a long time it's like he can only give so much of himself and keeps the rest to himself like he needs to protect himself...ugh I keep getting told it will get easier but it's not getting easier. I'm so confused literally I have no clue what happened. I mean I know we don't have the perfect marriage but we didn't have anything to separate over...sheesh so much more to the story
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Oh and Sinatra I know EXACTLY what you mean when you say

"It's hard to stop the thoughts that she's maybe hurting and just not reaching out to me for whatever reason."

I feel as though he's doing the same thing....
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Breathe Rhea I know it's so so hard. I'm crying so loud on the inside right now I'm sure you're as well. Depression is truly a killer, but I know one thing you can't do anything to change him. You have to remember that you can only change yourself and make sure you're taking care of yourself. Try try try to remain strong and be within yourself and your own mind, not his.

Remember you can't control anyone or their actions. Don't try and make sense of what he's doing, you won't be able to. Try and not read anything into things and stay within yourself. Trust me as I'm typing this I'm struggling to do this myself.
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Oh and Sinatra I know EXACTLY what you mean when you say

"It's hard to stop the thoughts that she's maybe hurting and just not reaching out to me for whatever reason."

I feel as though he's doing the same thing....

Yes that's very hard to deal with, but who really knows if they are. Also if they really are than they can reach out to us. I think that's what's really hard for LBS is that we think or know that the other person is hurting as well and that they aren't reaching out.
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***Update***

So yesterday morning my DH's ears must have been burning because a friend of mine and I were emailing back and forth just me updating her on the situation and the latest happenings. We were just talking about how I had almost been a week since I'd talked to him when bzzz the phone goes off and he text me about some bad news (in a time of crisis or when something bad happens he always turns to me) I text him back after sitting on it for a few minutes (I have a hard time ignoring him especially during bad times for him) anyway I said I'm sorry to hear that text me later if you need someone to talk to I'm here.

Later in the evening while I knew he was still at work w/no access to phone. I text him about one of the untility bills and then said I hope you had a good day text later if you want. TTYl.

Fast forward to 10ish I get a text from him just regular bs but I couldn't read what he wrote so I repsonded w/huh and he called. He was like I don't want to text I'd rather talk So we talked for a bit which wound up w/him inviting me to the house he's renting since he's moved out. HUGE step seeing how as though he wouldn't even tell me where he lived before because he was afraid I'd cause drama. I was a little skeptical at first and was like I don't know if that's such a good idea. But he convinced me to come over so we could talk.

Needless to say I went over stayed for about 4 hrs. We talked, had some great sex and talked some more. It ended w/a hug volunteered by him and a kiss that I asked for but wasn't denied. He said I'd hear from him this weekend sometime. I haven't text him since I left last night when I text and said I love you very much thank you for spending time w/me tonight I really enjoyed it. I miss you like crazy it sucks not having you around. TTYl

So at this point I haven't text yay! Even though I want to really bad. I'm trying to just see where it goes. He kept saying things through out the evening such as well next time you come over or I'm going to have do this so that when you come over we can do this etc yadda yadda. I'm trying not to get my hopes up but to hear him talk like that is music to my ears. I'm hoping these are baby steps and signs of a chance of hope. We really had some good conversation and he was really open.

Oh! and guess what, right beside his bed on his night stand was his wedding band! I was like what's that doing there? He's like I keep it there, I like it there. It's a reminder to me

So anyway, hopefully I hear from him this weekend.

*Praying* but not texting lol. Gosh I love this man. Phew! It's crazy how much you can love someone.
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Just coming to my own little spot on here to rant...this is almost like a diary I suppose...

Holy Moses and Mary someone please help me understand, so if you read my post a couple days ago I went to the hubby's house he's been renting after he moved out....as stated had some good conversation, great sex, ended w/a goodbye kiss and a I'll call you this weekend statement.

Well no call this weekend. After reading his MySpace status this evening (damn myspace, I need to stick to Facebook lol) it reminds me (like I would have forgotten right!) that I didn't hear from him this weekend. Anyway his status says something of the sorts like only my two true friends have never hurt me. So dumb me texts him and says "Hey why I haven't I heard from you?" He responds w/I don't know....me "Really?! Thought you were going to give me a call? How are you? I read your status who are your two true friends? Him..."You and *****" But that still doesn't change anything w/us.

Insert frustration here! and confusion and lack of self control....I dial his number and call him up. I'm like what's up w/that? I'm your best friend? We have great sex, I've never been unfaithful, we have great chemistry hence the great sex, we have plenty in common and I'm told that I never did anything wrong as far as being a good wife.

Question of the century....someone tell me why this man is divorcing me?! I ask him and he's like I've told you "I just don't feel it" (my least favorite expression right next to the "I love you but I'm not "in" love with you statment). Really? How do you not feel or love your wife when straight from the horses mouth she is your best friend, you miss having sex with her, you make comments about how great the sex is, she was faithful to you and a good wife? You guys have plenty of hobbies in common etc. Do tell me exactly what it is your missing in this marriage and hoping to find by becoming single!....Silence

My words to him....interesting babe, so should I have
*treated you like ****
*been unfaithul
*not participated in our mutual hobbies or denied you doing them
*never had sex w/you
*and be the worst wife I could possibly be?

Would that have kept you around?........silence


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