I am two for two in my marriages. Both wives serially cheated.
I have dated, some, and , in conversation with the women I have met, I would say aboyt 75% have cheated or been an OW to a married man(both my XW had been with married men).
I wonder, since women probably have more access to this infor, from friends etc, can someone give me a rough estimate of how common it is among women.
I think it varies from social group and education level. I have always suspected that the best place to fish for a woman who is looking to cheat would be church. For some reason churches attract lots of women looking for someone to give them direction and answers.
Wow, that's interesting. Most of my female friends have been cheated on, but I can't think of any women I know that (admit) to cheating.
Some are unhappy, yes. But they get divorced instead. Maybe they don't ever admit it to other women, doesn't mean it isn't happening.
I think women can cheat more easily than men. They are usually surrounded by guys who want to have sex with them. Guys are usually also more likely to be descreet and not go and blab to the woman's husband. Don't know if religous people cheat any more frequently than non-religous people, but I know it's not less frequently. If you feel safe or immune to adultry because you and your spouse are Christians then you are deluding yoursels. There were lots of affairs in the church I used to go to (First United Medthodist). Posted via Mobile Device
I think it varies from social group and education level. I have always suspected that the best place to fish for a woman who is looking to cheat would be church. For some reason churches attract lots of women looking for someone to give them direction and answers.
This does not surprise me. Seems the most sexually voracious women I have met are church goers, many giving the impression of being demure. In the bderoom these republican/relious types are very uninhibited. I bet Michelle Bachman is insatiable.
But, seriously, most of the women that I met on match had cheated.
I will also add that years ago I had a job as conveyance acct in a very pretigious commercial real estate brokerage. I left that job and it's huge paycheque because of the environment. Many married brokers were carrying on with other ladies at functions. VP would show up for company function with a different woman every time, none looked like the picture of his wife on his desk. And it is "common" in the industry I'm in now... upper level mgmt. But it's the MEN that have mistresses. So I don't think it's immune to income, or only happens in lower class.
Depends upon whose numbers you look at, or the nature of the study. One of the factors regarding responses is that it is simply NOT behavior that one wants to respond to positively in a survey.
What does seem clear is that the sexes are closing the infidelity gap. Those that presume that men cheat at much higher rate are incorrect. Women lag men by about 15 to 20% at best.
On a personal level, if you are seeing distinct factors in your long term relationships, then you need to take a hard look at the common denominator ... you.
Depends upon whose numbers you look at, or the nature of the study. One of the factors regarding responses is that it is simply NOT behavior that one wants to respond to positively in a survey.
What does seem clear is that the sexes are closing the infidelity gap. Those that presume that men cheat at much higher rate are incorrect. Women lag men by about 15 to 20% at best.
On a personal level, if you are seeing distinct factors in your long term relationships, then you need to take a hard look at the common denominator ... you.
Exactly. I hope it is more of a selection problem than a "driving them to cheat" deal.I think it is the former, as , Like I said, both wives had been involved with multiple married men when they were single. I was an idiot to have overlooked that. And,one cheated on her subsequnt husband.
In the dating deal, I noticed that the woemn seemed to make a major distinction between having been an OW and having cheated on a spouse or boyfriend.
Now, withthe wisodom of hindsight, I am of the opinion that it makes little difference, as both reflect on integrity and the perso's view n the sanctity of marriage.
Couldn't prove a thing, but the data coming out of university programs that track these kinds of things (not for publishing but instead to provide responses and benefits to certain populations) are finding that women and men cheat at approximately the same rate.
It makes sense if you think about it in the sense that people typically pair off. Even if a few people in one gender cheat with many other people, there are probably comparable people on the other side as well. Nothing I can prove of course, but I think women have pulled even with men.
The one difference I think is that women are in some ways encouraged in the sense that they see it as some sort of empowerment, whereas a cheating man is just yet another cheating man.
Edit: I should add that I saw one expert recently say that adultery rates are actually declining and that the reason the poll results are so high is that such people self-select when responding. He was saying only 15% or so cheat these days. It seemed really low to me, but whatever the rate is I still think women cheat as often as men do.
It's weird you say that about the etitlement or endowment mentality. Traditionally, I have heard it said that men were viewed this way.
But, Ihave noticed something , too. It seems that the common steroetype(redundant, I guess) is that men cheat for sex and women for love or emotionla reasons. I am not sure that is true, or if the women just report it that way due to the stigma attached to admitting the hook up was for merely sexual reasons.
Regardless, it seems that women's cheating may , actually, be more accepted, as they characterize it as the pursuit of true love etc. Society seems to look less disapporvingly on this, in spite of the fact that it causes just as much destruction to the family and betrayed spouse.
I think of movies where this is the dynamic, like "Bridges of ******* County", and how the cheating wife's activites were portrayed as, somehow sort of noble and romantic.
I emotionally cheated before leaving my older daughter's father. I wish I would not have done that, but it happened. He wasn't a peach-- living with him was hell....but he didn't deserve that. I have never done anything like that since. I felt awful. I have apologized to him for that.
I don't know of any of my female friends who have cheated. I know some that think about it, but decide against it.
I'm sure plenty of women hide their cheating from their friends, but I can say that of all my friends (female - I'm also female) NONE of them has ever admitted cheating on their husband to me. I've also never cheated. I have had girlfriends who have admitted cheating on boyfriends (two come to mind).
Out of all my girlfriends, I know of one whose husband cheated on her. (They has a successful R.)
My EA was strictly emotional attachment...and wasn't physical until after I left my ex. And wow. What an awesome Love that was. No intercourse though...our guilt kept us from that. (He was good friends with my ex, and he and I were good friends...omg what drama). But I'll never regret it. Ever. It showed me my capacity to love and I didn't settle for less with my husband. It took me 4 years to get over him. 6 months after I was over him, I met my husband. Perfect <3