Originally Posted by FeministInPink View Post
That number isn't quite right. You're off by about 5 million. According to the CDC, approximately 50 million abortions have been performed since the passing of Roe v. Wade, and that number has been steadily declining since 1990. The current number is somewhere around 660,000 per year, as of 2013 (only slightly more than in 1973, in which the number was 610,000). Source
. The same or less raw number than before Roe v. Wade, despite the fact that there are 105 million MORE PEOPLE in the US in 2013 than there were in 1973, the year Roe v. Wade was passed. Source
. So if you look at the percentages, there is actually less abortion now, proportionally.
Additionally, you can see from this CDC chart that teen pregnancy has dropped drastically over the last 20 yrs: https://www.cdc.gov/teenpregnancy/about/
Please provide legitimate (not fake news sites or right-wing propaganda sites) sources for your claims, please. I'll be more likely to take your claims seriously and with less skepticism if you do.
ETA: And Planned Parenthood is a separate issue. Please keep red herrings out of the debate. We're not talking about Planned Parenthood.
The 56 million figure I got came from Life News, a pro-life site, but you will dismiss that as right wing propaganda, so I'll go to where you are.
That 50 million figure you cited from the CDC is 1000% percent wrong, plus the link you posted to wikipedia actually shows 51,888,303, not 50 million. How do I know it's wrong? It is widely known and acknowledged that the CDC abortion stats have omitted key states like California, which also happens to be the most populous, since 1998. They also have stopped counting abortions from New Hampshire since that same year. In addition, several states have not been counted for certain years. The CDC - from the wikipedia link you cited - reduced it's reporting areas from 52 to 47 in 1998.
There are really only two sources for abortion stats: the CDC and the Guttmacher Institute. GI was a former research arm of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Both are incomplete since the CDC omits certain states and have reduced the number of reporting areas, while the Guttmacher Institute doesn't do an annual survey, plus they said only 58% of those they survey provides them with stats. There is no law that mandates any abortion providers to report their numbers.
Let's play with some numbers that I've lifted from the Guttmacher Institute site. source
•Approximately 926,200 abortions occurred in the United States in 2014.
• In 2014, some 157,350 abortions were provided in California.
• In 2014, some 2,540 abortions were provided in New Hampshire. source
Notice that I'm only low-balling it, and not using the high numbers from years like 1990 when it was 1.6 million.
From 1998 to 2016 is 16 years, so for California, it's (157,350 x 16 = 2,517,600). For New Hampshire, it's (2,778 x 16 = 44,457).
Add CA & NH's missing years to the 51,888,303 and we get (2,778 + 2,517,600 + 51,883,303 = 54,403,681. That total is about 1.6 million shy of 56 million. The Guttmacher Institute estimates that there is a 3% undercount, so that gets it over 56 million.
CDC did not count stats from states like Oklahoma, Alaska, West Virginia, Maryland, and Louisiana (OK in 1998, AK from 1998 to 2002, WV in 2003 and 2004, LA in 2005, MD from 2007 to 2012). I don't think it's a stretch to get to 56 million if those states are accounted for. It's definitely not 50 million. Mine is a layman's simplistic extrapolation, since it's not possible to get the exact figure regardless of whether the CDC stats or the GI stats are used, but if combined, it does paint a clearer picture.
I'm not disputing that there's a decline in abortions, but I'm not certain what is the reason behind that. It could be better health education or it could be a shift in how women view abortion. The CDC stats seem to say that the number of STDs have increased (source
) and people are having more sex now than ever with the wide spread use of services like Tinder, AM, Match, Cupid, etc. School age kids are also having sex and sexting. There are what's known as Super STDs that are resistant to most known vaccines. It could also be due to people having less children. Every year, there's a pro-abortion march and a pro-life march. I've seen signs that read "Thank you, Mom, I am grateful", so to a certain extent, I think women's views on abortion have slowly changed from pro-abortion to pro-life.
Planned Parenthood had a major presence in this women's march, so I think it's relevant to talk about them, and definitely not a red herring.