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I am sick and tired of everyone protesting about EVERYTHING. It is absolutely absurd. The protests stem from that segment of the population that despise Trump, it's been that way since he announced his candidacy in the summer of 2015. Combine distaste for him with his winning the election and the disappointment from seeing him in this position of authority, and many can't stomach it. He's the President. He won the election, get used to it. Maybe someone will actually do something in the White House, rather than sit on their f***ing a** for 8 years. If you went to a protest, get a job, get a life. This politically correct, "misogynisitic", "racist", liberal crap is just unbearable. Go to work, pay taxes, take care of and protect your family, be kind to others, try to get along with others, etc. Can anyone take anyone seriously who wears a vagina costume?? And who the heck protests extreme vetting, which protects us? I don't see anyone protesting locking their doors at night. This is what those who root for Hillary, those who hate Trump, the ones protesting,those who cried during the election still don't get--this s*** is getting old, and it needs to stop.
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I saw the womens march as a way of saying that women are a powerful political force and should be considered in all politics. I think this is a fine message, half the population is female and they have historically not had half the political power.

Beyond that there are many issues that affect women and of course not all women will agree on all of these issues. Abortion is one of the most divisive issues because the two sides is starting from different postulates: is a fetus a person? That cannot be measured, and depending on your answer you end up on one side or the other of the abortion debate.

Abortion is either murder, or a woman's obvious right to control her own body.
I would agree. Assembly, Protest, Marching on Washington and the like. Kinda makes me think...at least some freedom...is still alive. Not including any rioting/destruction...disagreement with a protester's message is one thing...telling them they CANT protest is quite another...and very very wrong.

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Where I marched there was no talk about killing babies. I am a pretty average mother who holds a full time job.
You are one of a tiny tiny number who felt it represented them, this shows by the tiny number who went.

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I am sick and tired of everyone protesting about EVERYTHING. It is absolutely absurd. The protests stem from that segment of the population that despise Trump, it's been that way since he announced his candidacy in the summer of 2015. Combine distaste for him with his winning the election and the disappointment from seeing him in this position of authority, and many can't stomach it. He's the President. He won the election, get used to it. Maybe someone will actually do something in the White House, rather than sit on their f***ing a** for 8 years. If you went to a protest, get a job, get a life. This politically correct, "misogynisitic", "racist", liberal crap is just unbearable. Go to work, pay taxes, take care of and protect your family, be kind to others, try to get along with others, etc. Can anyone take anyone seriously who wears a vagina costume?? And who the heck protests extreme vetting, which protects us? I don't see anyone protesting locking their doors at night. This is what those who root for Hillary, those who hate Trump, the ones protesting,those who cried during the election still don't get--this s*** is getting old, and it needs to stop.
I couldnt agree more. Even in the uk there is ranting and raving and proposed marches and petitions against trump. I see it as childish and disrespectful to the the USA who voted for him democratically. What I want to ask if why oh why does no one do this about all the evil dictators in the world? Where are the protests about them? How they kill and starve and torture their own people?
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Protests are one of the solutions to the "tyranny of the majority" problems in democracies. They allow the minority opinion to still have a voice.

I don't support violent protests except in the most excpetional situations, and this is not one of those, but I do support protests as yet another political tool.

I think some of your characterizations or protesters may not be right. Sergey Brin, co-founder of Google was personally protesting at San Francisco airport - can't really complain that he needs to "get a job".

You are right that there is a lot a hatred for President Trump, but he has said and done things that many people fine offensive. Can he really be surprised that women are protesting when he is on video committing workplace harassment, and bragging about sexual assault?

Can he really complain that people protest his immigration policies when they appear to have been issued with minimal thought and without the careful legal language that is so important? Did he really want to exclude perminent residents - people who LIVE in the US, many of them just waiting the many years it takes for citizenship to be approved. The wording in the order could even be read to exclude US citizens arriving from those countries because the language was not checked.

So the womens' protest is putting politicians AND women on notice that women are a major voting force, half of the toal voters in the country. I expect and hope that women will vote in much higher numbers in the next election.



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I am sick and tired of everyone protesting about EVERYTHING. It is absolutely absurd. The protests stem from that segment of the population that despise Trump, it's been that way since he announced his candidacy in the summer of 2015. Combine distaste for him with his winning the election and the disappointment from seeing him in this position of authority, and many can't stomach it. He's the President. He won the election, get used to it. Maybe someone will actually do something in the White House, rather than sit on their f***ing a** for 8 years. If you went to a protest, get a job, get a life. This politically correct, "misogynisitic", "racist", liberal crap is just unbearable. Go to work, pay taxes, take care of and protect your family, be kind to others, try to get along with others, etc. Can anyone take anyone seriously who wears a vagina costume?? And who the heck protests extreme vetting, which protects us? I don't see anyone protesting locking their doors at night. This is what those who root for Hillary, those who hate Trump, the ones protesting,those who cried during the election still don't get--this s*** is getting old, and it needs to stop.
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You are one of a tiny tiny number who felt it represented them, this shows by the tiny number who went.
Do you think if you keep saying it, it will somehow make it true? If you keep trying to marginalize this population, do you think they will be put in their place, shamed until they stop talking?

The tiny number that went? In DC alone, it's estimated at least a million people marched, according to the International Business Times. The DC metro (subway) system recorded over one million riders on the day of the march--the second busiest day in the history of Metro, second only to Obama's 2009 inauguration. That doesn't even include people who took commuter trains into the city, who drove, who took taxis/Ubers, rode bicycles, crossed the Potomac bridges on food to get to the protest.

That doesn't factor in attendance at other marches around the country in other cities; including other U.S. cities, participation is estimated at 4.2 million.

It doesn't factor all the supporters of the march who couldn't attend/participate for various reasons (work, childcare, cost).

This march is likely the biggest protest in the history of the United States.

That's than just a tiny tiny number.

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There are frequent protests all over the world against oppressive regimes. Remember Tiananmen square. There are protests going on in Poland right now.




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I couldnt agree more. Even in the uk there is ranting and raving and proposed marches and petitions against trump. I see it as childish and disrespectful to the the USA who voted for him democratically. What I want to ask if why oh why does no one do this about all the evil dictators in the world? Where are the protests about them? How they kill and starve and torture their own people?
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From what I learned from people in DC, it sure didnt seem like a tiny number.

When the protesters destroy business and private goods, however, they not only hurt those they claim to want to help...they seriously damage their credibility. The so called anarchist....just sad....having been in locations that actually had NO law, no order...i would bet they would run in terror if they ever actually experienced the anarchy they claim to desire

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From what I learned from people in DC, it sure didnt seem like a tiny number.

When the protesters destroy business and private goods, however, they not only hurt those they claim to want to help...they seriously damage their credibility. The so called anarchist....just sad....having been in locations that actually had NO law, no order...i would bet they would run in terror if they ever actually experienced the anarchy they claim to desire
What I can say about the one women's march I attended is that it was peaceful and I could be wrong but I am not aware of any rioting or violent behavior in any of the other women's marches that happened in other cities.
I certainly would refrain fom bringing my young daughter to any march or protest where violence was anticipated or promoted. Of course not everything can be predicted but I have been very fortunate...probably because I have only supported peaceful causes and I also never supported Hillary nor Trump.
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I saw the womens march as a way of saying that women are a powerful political force and should be considered in all politics. I think this is a fine message, half the population is female and they have historically not had half the political power.
I understand what you're saying here, but I also think it's a disservice to women to believe that they're monolithic in their political beliefs. When you can pigeon-hole an entire group of people as being in one belief system, they become taken for granted.


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I went. It was great, peaceful and inspirational. The women I went with are having a follow up meeting tonight where we will solidify our goal of mid term election involvement.
The folks who say what did we march for? this^^
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I understand what you're saying here, but I also think it's a disservice to women to believe that they're monolithic in their political beliefs. When you can pigeon-hole an entire group of people as being in one belief system, they become taken for granted.
I'm not sure where that sentiment comes from? Just because a large number of women marched for women's rights doesn't mean they all marched for the same reason or that women who did not March agree or disagree with some of their views.

Do you remember the Million Man March in DC put together by Farrahkan? Do you think that march represented all men's views, or even all black men?

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I'm not sure where that sentiment comes from? Just because a large number of women marched for women's rights doesn't mean they all marched for the same reason or that women who did not March agree or disagree with some of their views.

Do you remember the Million Man March in DC put together by Farrahkan? Do you think that march represented all men's views, or even all black men?

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I think many of those marches are often used to try to create that impression.
I'm sure some are. For others, it's a way to have their voices heard. There is strength in numbers.

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I didn't go, but I considered it. I've lived in the DC metro area for the last 13 years, and when you live here, you develop an aversion for protests and marches, because they happen all the time and they sometimes really **** with your everyday life, especially when one happens on a work day. And honestly, I was a little scared of violence-prone Trump supporters showing up, but that turned out to not be a problem.

I did go to the Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert Rally to Restore Sanity/Fear back whenever that was, and that will probably be the only rally/march I'll go to.
I think the violence showed the day of swearing in. The non-Trump supporters. The same that block roads, break windows, burn business' and cars. Fun loving folk. Yeah, that was them. Violence prone Trump supporters. Are kidding me?


The Right to Life women were NOT invited. They had to do their own thing a week later.

Berkley is in flames. No Trump supporters there.

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