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post #121 of 197 (permalink) Old 02-05-2017, 08:28 PM
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Nya, we're going to end up in a feudal state owing our lives to our corporate overlords.

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Well, yeah, that too.

Personally, I'm going to be looking for ownership of water. That's going to be the global commodity soon. Or maybe ownership of desalination processes.

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Well the Christians were thrown to the lions. How far back do you want to go?

Btw, this happened in a city with a black mayor. One of the killed cops was black

I didn't mention race. You did.
Oh please. You aren't making this about color?
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My family and many of my friends are Trump supporters. My wife's family and many of my friends hate Trump. None of them have looted or been an angry mob for either side. I will say that, being southern, my family is way more anti-gay and racist than my wife's family. But, I'm not saying that's necessarily true of all Trump supporters.

My problem with Trump is because I don't like his stance on many issues. Some, I'm okay with. But, what I am seeing from Trump supporters is a feeling that they are now more justified in their beliefs and therefore more vocal. Where my family would only talk crap about blacks in hushed tones before, they are now using the N word a lot more. Land owners I am speaking to in my line of work are now being pushy about "hating environmental regulations". I have spoken to two such land owners in the past week. Both of which were somewhat hostile about having to undergo "useless studies" in order to get their project completed. In the past 25 years I don't think I have had even one land owner be hostile about it, until now.

The reality is that Trump's demeanor, which is quite narcissistic, is dividing this country worse than I've ever seen it divided. Obama set the tone as well. He was pretty bad too about dividing people. His stance on the police and BLM was outrageous. But, as bad as Obama was in that regard, Trump is worse. His constant Tweeting and vilification of anyone who disagrees with him will probably end in a major war before he serves a complete 4 years.

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I'll take the other side of that. Of course, if you can name a time that a war was started by tweeting or insulting people, I might reconsider.

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TX-SC, that's what I've been projecting, too - we're going to be at war. My prediction is that the 'white people' are going to pick some states (the ones that give them the most money), claim them, and start refusing to let anyone else join them. And all the 'outcasts' or 'not good enough' people are going to end up with the rest of the country. As I keep saying, this election reminds me more and more of Atlas Shrugged; but in a reverse way. It's not the brains and the brave separating themselves from the country - it's the hateful, fearful ones who forget that this country thrives because of its diversity.
I've read Atlas Shrugged quite a few times, and I don't see the slightest resemblance between its heroes and those who are hysterical about Trump's election win. In fact, quite the reverse: Trump, although he is certainly not perfect, is more like one of her heroes than any President in memory.

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I know many people that voted for both 44 and 45. Your statement is your personal opinion not based on any fact.

If a white person doesnt vote for a black they are racist. But not the other way around.

My city had a recent election for mayor. A black woman was elected. Against a white man. The majority of voters are white. I live in the deep South.

She was the best candidate.

How does that fit your racist sexist theory?

Oh, it does. I guess the racist white bigots were at the truck show, Nascar or white only bar and forgot to vote.
I think it is interesting (but not in a good way) that when people who voted for a black man for President refuse to vote for a white woman (as happened in quite a few counties in Pennsylvania and Ohio), that makes them racist.

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Or maybe ownership of desalination processes.
The military can do this already.

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I think it is interesting (but not in a good way) that when people who voted for a black man for President refuse to vote for a white woman (as happened in quite a few counties in Pennsylvania and Ohio), that makes them racist.


And sexist too.
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And sexist too.
While that is wrong, at least it isn't totally ridiculous; that is, it is possible that people wouldn't vote for a woman due to sexism, although I'm pretty sure that's not why Hillary lost.

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While that is wrong, at least it isn't totally ridiculous; that is, it is possible that people wouldn't vote for a woman due to sexism, although I'm pretty sure that's not why Hillary lost.
Yes, but I meant if you DON'T vote for H, regardless of any other reason - like she is a war-mongering socialist criminal - you are considered sexist and hate women.
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Lots of people voted for lots of reasons. Some of those reasons were racist or sexist, some were not. Some were self interest, some believed that they were voting for the common good. Some thought very carefully, others just reacted to the media.

It would take a very careful study to separate *why* various demographics voted the way that they did.


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While that is wrong, at least it isn't totally ridiculous; that is, it is possible that people wouldn't vote for a woman due to sexism, although I'm pretty sure that's not why Hillary lost.


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Oh please. You aren't making this about color?
Did you read the thread? The other posters brought up the issue of racism.

I actually gave an example of un-racism. But hey, I don't have any fancy FB memes so my rebuttal is ignored.
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While that is wrong, at least it isn't totally ridiculous; that is, it is possible that people wouldn't vote for a woman due to sexism, although I'm pretty sure that's not why Hillary lost.
Many would vote a woman for President. However, Hillary is not the woman. Hillary had too much negative from her own doing that was her undoing(IMO).

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Yes, but I meant if you DON'T vote for H, regardless of any other reason - like she is a war-mongering socialist criminal - you are considered sexist and hate women.
The Dems did their very best to point this out during the campaign. Obama was included as one that pushed this idea.

I would believe that it is true for some individuals but not enough to matter because Hillary won the popular vote. Therefore we can kind of put that notion to bed.

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Those vandals at his inauguration were anarchists and they are not the Left! They themselves refuse to be labeled as such.

The violence in Portland on Election Day was perpetrated by the anarchists, not regular citizens angry about Trumps election.
I'm just cherry picking this from your post. First, these are not vandals. These are rioters. Second, anarchist are not left? What are they then? What do these folks use as a label? What do these anarchist want exactly?

Anarchists are regular citizens upset with something. Government not doing enough? 1% should be doing more? Sound oddly like the left.

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I'm just cherry picking this from your post. First, these are not vandals. These are rioters. Second, anarchist are not left? What are they then? What do these folks use as a label? What do these anarchist want exactly?

Anarchists are regular citizens upset with something. Government not doing enough? 1% should be doing more? Sound oddly like the left.
Anarchists are people who don't believe in government. Period.

The people who destroyed property and threatened harm to people are rioters, not anarchists. Since they are apparently trying to influence the government via violence, they could also be called terrorists.

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