Feminazi: There's a difference between a feminazi and a feminist.
A feminist is someone who supports womens' rights, feminists believe that women should have rights equal to men. Simple as that. Feminism is cool.
Feminazis believe that men should have no rights and should be killed.
Metrosexuals: A straight man who embraces the homosexual lifestyle, i.e. refined tastes in clothing, excessive use of designer hygiene products, etc. Usually is on the brink of homosexuality. Generally takes longer than a woman to get himself ready to go out in public.
Feminazi was a word coined by Rush Limbaugh as a term he ascribed to all feminist women. He signed this term to one particular caller in the early 1990's who left her alchoholic husband and was raising her sons without support. Instead of saying "Wow, kuddos", Rush waxed on about the demise of marriage, the family and that THAT woman was the cause of it. He called her a feminazi.
Yeah, I highly doubt most women want men dead. Not me at least. That term is beyond disgusting but look at the source. A man with a drug addiction who had his female maid deported so she couldn't testify. He got off scott free and that term has stood. Amazing. A fat/bloated red faced drug addict pile of crap who had the gaul to ascribe a term to a woman who left her abusive husband and he stood in judgment of that. He railed against a woman for not sticking through it all but what did he do? Lied, lied and lied some more......oh and got rid of the evidence.
Not a feminazi at all but if I could have 10 minutes with him, yup.
I am living proof that a woman can live independently, without a man to support them. However, despite my Generation Y leanings, I realize that some things will NEVER change.
Think about it. How often do unemployed men attract women who want to marry them? Why do younger women marry financially solvent older men? Even if couples are poor when they marry, there is always the tacit expectation that the husband will elevate the family's economic status. Nobody ever belittles a woman who does not provide for her family!
I am blessed to live in a time where the educational and career opportunities for women are abundant. I only wish that feminism was not tainted with women, who devalue other females for being traditional. It was supposed to be about choices.
How did this thread become about feminism?? I wonder why many threads all come back to this same issue.
@Mephisto: TheRealBrightEyes nailed why feminazi is such a vile term, like NAILED it as well as if you dare pronounce you are a feminist in a lot of places, you are immediately slapped w/ the feminazi label even if your view is completely moderate. It sucks, but that's the reason for the hostility.
In regards to metros, well it seems that throughout history certain segments of men have always dressed snappily and taken their time in their appearance. I'm watching The Tudors at the moment and dang, if King Henry isn't beautifully dressed, I don't know what. I know men have a couple democratic uniforms right now, I just don't see how taking the time to look nice as possible in pants and a shirt is a bad thing, and it's not like codpieces and corsets are coming back. Everyone has gotten sucked up with youthfulness and moisturizing is key for that. I don't know, What I will agree with though: men look very odd with waxed eyebrows. Don't do that. Posted via Mobile Device
I'm sitting here with my oldest college bound son, he was intregued by the thread title here -looking over my computer screen , and had a few ideas of his own.... These are his words about what is messing men up in todays society...
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1. Todays media - #1 Rap , the Rap culture...which glorifys drugs, which ends up in people getting addicted - also in this culture women are looked down upon, not respected, treated as objects, not as people in these songs we praise. Ex Little Wayne Snoop Dog, Eminem -etc Look at their lyrics.
2. Fatherless homes...in todays society divorce rates are way up , so children are raised without a father- so they have no example, or mentor , so these kids have to look for it elsewhere or they just don't have an example.
3. Definition of Manhood ...or lack there of...
How is manhood defined in todays society?
Is it getting laid, your 1st beer, getting a drivers liscense, how much iron you pump, growing a beard, your 1st job, is it making 6 figures, and the cliches go on & on..
...these things have nothing to do wth being a man at all, we just make up stuff as we go along. Manhood - can it really be defined ? Probably not... but something it should include are the following.......
1.Integrity
2. Character
3. Courage
4. Responsibity for actions
5. to not be envious
6. Sacrifice
7. Willingness to submit to Authority
8. Having self control.. ...
I'm sitting here with my oldest college bound son, he was intregued by the thread title here -looking over my computer screen , and had a few ideas of his own.... These are his words about what is messing men up in todays society...
Very good thoughts from you son. I wish him well in his college career. It's an exciting time for a young person. My son is a Junior in college.
SimplyAmorous I must commend you and your husband on having such a fine and exemplary son. His comments speak volumes about his maturity. You should be very proud of him.
Men never stopped being men. Real men are still real men. Someone could ask where all the real women went too. But real women are still real women.
Any body who has values, cherishes other people, knows the value of a good spouse and how to appreciate real things in life, how to treat others without getting stomped on, and who doesn't compromise their integrity for money or attention is a real man/ woman.
If men think they have it bad, then they should change it, since men still, politically and financially speaking control the world.
They own the means of production, they own the media etc, and they set the standards in society.
I really do believe the best way forward to would be to value people, and to stop putting masculinity on a pedestal along with traditional male roles, and to learn to value women as people. Stop teaching young girls their greatest asset is how they look and that their sexuality is of utmost importance. Teach men to really value women, and women to value themselves.
Then instead of idolizing stars who treat women with no respect, like toss away items, and instead of valuing $$$ we could teach our sons to idolize real men, with courage and values. And teach children that there is nothing wrong with the feminine, that traditional women's roles hold a lot of value, and are just as important as mens roles.
You can't spend half your time putting down women, and women's roles and then wonder why women don't want them any more.
I'm afraid this simply is not correct, and any anthropologist will tell you so. There's no such thing as an inherent breadwinner. In the human race's first, and most primitive, societies (and therefore those closest to our inherent nature) there was an equal division of labor among the sexes. And it wasn't simply men hunted and women gathered. In fact, BOTH hunted and BOTH gathered.
Now, in the many centuries since have people been socially conditioned to see the ma as breadwinner? Sure. But that's conditioning, not human nature. And, relatively speaking, it's a recent phenomena. Slowly, but surely, that conditioning will change as society changes - and society always changes.
You are free to hold firm to outdated notions about gender roles. Certainly you won't be alone, and if it works for you, that's cool. But most people, especially the young, recognize that men and women are fully capable of providing for themselves, or one another, if they so choose. There's absolutely nothing in our nature that defines one sex as "breadwinner" and the other as "homemaker." Posted via Mobile Device
Wow. You couldn't be further off base. You have not a clue how the human species developed.
As agents of masculinity and femininity IT IS OUR DUTY as men and women to understand - NOT WHINE - one another and come to terms because our species deems it so.
So STOP whining. My 2.5 year old granddaughter, with whom I've played with all evening, has shown much more wisdom and maturity that the whole lot of you put together.
Very good thoughts from you son. I wish him well in his college career. It's an exciting time for a young person. My son is a Junior in college.
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SimplyAmorous I must commend you and your husband on having such a fine and exemplary son. His comments speak volumes about his maturity. You should be very proud of him.
Appreciate your words here , He is a fine young man, couldn't ask for a better son......amazes me many times over. I know the way he has turned out has much to do with the fine friends he has & who he chooses to surround himself with in life . He is a Worship/Youth Leader wanna Be Youth Paster taking Phyche at a simple State College who has a big heart for youth. He is the most joyful person we know. He is very well loved at our Church, even though I am the local heretic- makes me look good anyway - his dream job would be a Guidance Counselor.
He LOVES the fact I challenge his mind & make him think, I keep him grounded - Says that has done more for him than any Strict christian mom could ever do.
He also felt that breadwinning is - in his words last night, "ingrained" in men (for the most part, obviously many have lost thier way) -why they have more physical strength over women (that testosterone again) -and feels, (for the most part again), it has been ingrained in women to be the Nurturers in this life, caregivers -they are just darn better at it!
My son is obviously more on the Traditionalist side of life, though he wouldn't mind if his wife made more $ than him- he has no problem with women working, he said the old feminism was ALL GOOD (equal rights in all things enjoyable in this country)....but he admits what he sees in college troubles him a great deal...by those who call themselves feminists. The way some of them talk, feel, and have no need of a man.
He feels success , manhood has absolutely nothing to do with the how much $$ we earn (this does the devaluing of other people when we use such measures) , but should a man be working ...... Hell Yeah! Low income or high, it has to do with how you live, what example you set - I guess a man's legacy will tell the story.
Appreciate your words here , He is a fine young man, couldn't ask for a better son......amazes me many times over. I know the way he has turned out has much to do with the fine friends he has & who he chooses to surround himself with in life . He is a Worship/Youth Leader wanna Be Youth Paster taking Phyche at a simple State College who has a big heart for youth. He is the most joyful person we know. He is very well loved at our Church, even though I am the local heretic- makes me look good anyway - his dream job would be a Guidance Counselor.
He LOVES the fact I challenge his mind & make him think, I keep him grounded - Says that has done more for him than any Strict christian mom could ever do.
He also felt that breadwinning is - in his words last night, "ingrained" in men (for the most part, obviously many have lost thier way) -why they have more physical strength over women (that testosterone again) -and feels, (for the most part again), it has been ingrained in women to be the Nurturers in this life, caregivers -they are just darn better at it!
My son is obviously more on the Traditionalist side of life, though he wouldn't mind if his wife made more $ than him- he has no problem with women working, he said the old feminism was ALL GOOD (equal rights in all things enjoyable in this country)....but he admits what he sees in college troubles him a great deal...by those who call themselves feminists. The way some of them talk, feel, and have no need of a man.
He feels success , manhood has absolutely nothing to do with the how much $$ we earn (this does the devaluing of other people when we use such measures) , but should a man be working ...... Hell Yeah! Low income or high, it has to do with how you live, what example you set - I guess a man's legacy will tell the story.
That’s how it is here in Portugal. They don’t actually use terms like feminism, feminist etc. because it’s been tainted over the past few decades by female sexist extremists. Feminists will never understand this, they are blind to it or in denial.
It’s very interesting talking to both men and women here. Their baseline is “humanity” and their strategy, goal is “equal rights for all”. It is a so very much more collaborative (men and women) way of going about things than the divisive ways of modern day feminism. And because of that men and women here pull together to change things and things don’t become so polarised, us vs. them type of thing.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve met some exceptionally bright, fiery, strong willed, committed women in these equal rights movements. But it’s massively different here because you get the feeling you work on these things as men and women together to improve the situations for all.
Appreciate your words here , He is a fine young man, couldn't ask for a better son......amazes me many times over. I know the way he has turned out has much to do with the fine friends he has & who he chooses to surround himself with in life . He is a Worship/Youth Leader wanna Be Youth Paster taking Phyche at a simple State College who has a big heart for youth. He is the most joyful person we know. He is very well loved at our Church, even though I am the local heretic- makes me look good anyway - his dream job would be a Guidance Counselor.
He LOVES the fact I challenge his mind & make him think, I keep him grounded - Says that has done more for him than any Strict christian mom could ever do.
He also felt that breadwinning is - in his words last night, "ingrained" in men (for the most part, obviously many have lost thier way) -why they have more physical strength over women (that testosterone again) -and feels, (for the most part again), it has been ingrained in women to be the Nurturers in this life, caregivers -they are just darn better at it!
My son is obviously more on the Traditionalist side of life, though he wouldn't mind if his wife made more $ than him- he has no problem with women working, he said the old feminism was ALL GOOD (equal rights in all things enjoyable in this country)....but he admits what he sees in college troubles him a great deal...by those who call themselves feminists. The way some of them talk, feel, and have no need of a man.
He feels success , manhood has absolutely nothing to do with the how much $$ we earn (this does the devaluing of other people when we use such measures) , but should a man be working ...... Hell Yeah! Low income or high, it has to do with how you live, what example you set - I guess a man's legacy will tell the story.
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Re: When did men stop being men??? 
what are you on?
