Oh these kids today, with their baggy pants and their hippity-hop music ....
You guys realize, of course, that everything you're complaining about here is pretty much the same crap your parents said about you and your generation 30-40 years ago. What with your long hair, your free love, your Beatles and Stones.
Every generation seems to think the next generation (or one after that) will be the ruination of civilization.
You may now return to yelling at those kids for running across your lawn. Posted via Mobile Device
However, most of the previous generations grew up at some point.
Yes sons are moulded by their mothers as well as their fathers and both the macro and micro societies in which they live. My mother caught me with something I’d stolen as a paper boy from the newsagent. Had to work 3 months for nothing as punishment. Tough love just can’t beat it to get a boy back on the straight and narrow.
I think mothers and fathers set the stage for how their kids will be as adults. If you didn't have the best role models and you are aware of it and how it may effect your relationships then as adults, its up to you to fix it.
I have seen many adults who didn't have the best role models or the best home life period when they were kids. They were fully aware of it, their spouse even tried to show/tell them and they still refused to try and meet their spouse half way by making a few changes within. To me those are the ones who do not want to change and the marriage is not that important for them to do so.
Tens of thousands of people of that age group have made great sacrifices to serve (and in some cases died) their country over the past decade.
Just saying ... don't paint with such a broad brush. Every generation has had it's share of twits. And every generation *****es about the ones that follow their own. Posted via Mobile Device
The company had temperature specifications around 20 degrees below boiling, where home coffee usually is around 130F. She suffered third degree burns on 16% of her body including genitals requiring skin grafts. This incident occured after.multiple incidents of burns from the company. She ended up with a bit over half a million mostly in punitive damages due to the companies continued negligence.
This society may be overly litigous, this incident was absolutely not the case.
Just because multiple people do a dumb thing doesn't mean that it should become the standard. That's least common denominator thinking. Yeah, my grandparents drank tepid, 130 degree Sanka, but should they dictate how everyone else drinks their coffee? Traditionally, you boil water and pour it in the mug. It starts at 212F and cools down to the point where you are comfortable drinking it. Why isn't that the expectation of what coffee should be? Why do we have to idiot proof everything? It's not a product that's actually defective, like a coffee cup that splits open and dumps the scalding liquid in your lap.
How about if I sue Henckels because its knives are too sharp? I was used to my dull el-cheapo knives and when I was drying the new Henckels (always hand wash nice knives) I sliced a bit of my fingertip off. True story. The world can be a dangerous place if you don't have your wits about you.
Reminds me of when I used to referee youth soccer. One parent complained that I didn't call fouls enough. I said, "What plays are you talking about?" She said, "All the times my son fell down." I said, "It's a foul when they are intentionally tripped or pushed down. They might also trip over their own feet, the feet of someone who reached the ball first, or the ball. Just because someone falls doesn't mean that someone has committed a foul. It's soccer, falling down is part of the game." Lawyers believe that any adverse outcome should be pinned on someone else if possible.
By the way, Keurig brewers are set to brew at 192F. You can adjust 5 degrees down from that.
I'm not a fast food.corporation serving drive through coffee to people everyday. I assume my own responsibility if I choose to make 212 degree coffee. McDonalds assumed responsibility of serving hot coffee in an improper cup. McDonalds could have said "we serve coffee at scalding temps" and continued to have gotten sued for providing an unsafe product. They instead decided to lower the temp and inform their consumers as well as avoid further litigation. That's what courts are for. Posted via Mobile Device
If you guys are talking about Liebeck vs McDonalds, I will chime in (because after using a simple tool such as google and wikipedia realized public perception of the case has long ago taken its own course that diverge from the facts of the incident).
I really hate it when people refer to it as a frivolous case, or accuse her lawyers of being ambulance chasers.
Note that the UK court reached the opposite conclusion:
"Thus, if McDonald’s were going to avoid the risk of injury by a deep thickness burn they would have had to have served tea and coffee at between 55 C and 60 C. But tea ought to be brewed with boiling water if it is to give its best flavour and coffee ought to be brewed at between 85 C and 95 C. Further, people generally like to allow a hot drink to cool to the temperature they prefer. Accordingly, I have no doubt that tea and coffee served at between 55 C and 60 C would not have been acceptable to McDonald's customers. Indeed, on the evidence, I find that the public want to be able to buy tea and coffee served hot, that is to say at a temperature of at least 65 C, even though they know (as I think they must be taken to do for the purposes of answering issues (1) and (2)) that there is a risk of a scalding injury if the drink is spilled.""
The UK court got it right.
Also, Judge Frank Easterbrook wrote a unanimous US 7th Circuit Court of Appeals opinion affirming dismissal of a similar lawsuit against coffeemaker manufacturer Bunn-O-Matic. The opinion noted that hot coffee (179 °F (82 °C) in this case) is not "unreasonably dangerous."
If you feel your injuries are due to negligence it is not frivolous to sue and let the courts determine if such negligence occured. Lady had a pretty good case of negligence occuring due to repeated burns being reported.
I did make coffee though. French press, italian cream. Mmmm. Posted via Mobile Device
If you step back from anything you'll realize one thing every time. It's about balance. Hence the symbol of the courts and justice are the scales. Think about it for a moment and you'll see it applies to everything...men & women, the weather, justice, etc.
Sat through three hours of training tonight. Heard about cases in the justice system involving children and the laws established, adjusted and re-adjusted, abolished and then re-instated. They were all a response to imbalance in our best attempts to seek justice.
In order for things to be fair for some they will be unfair for some, when it tips too far in one direction people try to pull it back in favor of the other.
It changed my perspective. We have to choose carefully which side we choose to be on and fight fiercely for the side we choose but be open to changing our minds always. That's our best chance at justice.
Probably women in pant suits telling men they ain't men any more.
And vibrators, the new woman's bff. Dang if they could just make vibrators hold a job, take care of kids, and do the household chores....
Maybe in the next generation women will have it all figured out. Until then then they will just b!tch about men not being manly enough in between boob jobs, lipo suction, lip enhancement, and facelifts. Of course those are done to meet the horrible male standards of being beautiful, not the womans own vanity.