No, we're talking double standard here. THESE men are fine with going on hunting trips while their wives sit home with the kids but then they throw a fit when the women want to go out for a night to celebrate a birthday? Women like to go out to dinner and dance WITH EACH OTHER and THAT'S a problem but it's OK if men go away for a weekend of hunting? How do you know what they are REALLY doing?
I do not understand why the men would not just speak up if they have objections with GNO and women would not just speak up if they have objections with the hunting trips? Then talk it out like adults and come to a compromise.
There's no double standard there and it seems like a winning formula... a lot more so than blaming men and being defensive.
The topic is about meat markets, staying out all night all night, drinking heavily and dancing up close and personal with strange men.
Really? Perhaps you should go back to Page 1 because the topic that I read is about a bunch of woman who want to take a mutual friend out to dinner and dancing and sleep in without having to worry about housework or the kids and as a result they are getting grief about it from their husband's who do the same thing, albeit in a hunting trip.
These women simply want to engage in some "Girl Time". There's no talk about getting inebriated or going to a single's club and grinding up against men or picking up men or ANYTHING that you have been going on about and I would think that any loyal, trustworthy spouse would have NO problem with telling someone who is coming on to them to get the heck away from them.
Like I said, I'm willing to bet that there are just as many "pick ups" going on in the "safety" of their living rooms on social networking sites as is done in the supposed "meat markets."
BTW, I go to rock clubs to see live bands perform ALL the time and I've never had any problems with getting picked up. I lived in New York City for 5 years and went to dance clubs there and somehow I managed to keep myself from getting gang banged on pool tables...
You are one paranoid dude. Does your wife wear a chador and veil when she goes out into the big, bad outside world filled with those nasty, scheming, sex depraved men just waiting to grab and fondle and have their way with her?
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Has your wife ever been with you to a Tilted Kilt?
My bff worked there for a couple months, their "uniforms" are uh...skimpy to say the least. Made bank though.
You asked how husbands could get comfortable with club GNOs. I gather I'm one of the only ones in the thread who do this with some regularity so here is what we do:
*He has a standing invitation to join us, whenever. As long as he will be engaged in the evening and not at the bar pouting, he is more than welcome.
*He can call whenever and I'll answer. Easy enough.
*Wedding rings do not stop skeezers. Stilletos do.
*I go to him at the end of the night.
*I buy my own drinks on my own card.
*He is well acquainted with my friends and their SOs.
*uh, he trusts me and doesn't read PUA ish.
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I don't think GNO's generally lead to anything dubious, even if they are held at a bar/club. I also don't agree that men go to sports bars or hooters to pick up women. Every time my H has gone to a sports bar it has been to drink and watch sports with a group of his friends. They love sports and I would rather not have a bunch of shouting kids, I mean men, at my house, monopolizing my TV.
Men love going to hooters because they get to watch women in tight clothing bring them food, and the wings are actually kind of good. I like watching that guy who insists on working out without his shirt on run on the treadmill. Women, married or not, are going to check out other men. Men, married or not, are going to check out other women. So long as my H has enough respect not to ogle some other woman in front of me, I'm good.
I personally think that both men and women need some "bonding time" with their same-gender buddies. There's a camaraderie you have that is altered when the "significant other" is there or even someone of the opposite sex.
Let's take a bunch of guys watching a sports event together. You think they are going to have the same good time if one of the wives, especially a wife who isn't into the game, is there? I think not. It alters the group chemistry and changes the atmosphere.
Same goes with a bunch of gals who want to get together and dance to Lady Gaga. It's not that anything BAD will happen, they just want to enjoy each other's company and have a good time. What's wrong with that?
As far as checking out other women/men. Well..DUH! Just because you are on a diet doesn't mean you can't read the menu.
Or as I've said to my husband, "I don't care where you get your appetite, as long as you eat at home."
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Personally I think all the issues regarding GNO's/BNO's, unless you have a valid reason or red flag, just make you look incredibly jealous or insecure. That being said, if you partner has a problem with it, go somewhere else instead or take them with you. I hardly ever go anywhere without my H. It is more fun with him there.
I see it ALL the time with my guy friends. The wives have a problem with EVERYTHING...whether it's going fishing or playing poker or watching football. It's not that they are afraid the guys are having an affair, it's more of a control issue. I can see that being the same situation with men not wanting their wives to go out with their girlfriends. It's like they feel threatened or something..
IMO you get married to have a relationship, not be controlled. We're all adults and if there IS a problem then sit down, talk it out and compromise but don't dictate terms.
To be honest, I don't want to have my husband hanging out with some of my friends because he gets bored or isn't interested in the stuff we're doing and starts whining about going home. There are times when he should stay home and I feel the same way. I tried playing poker with him and his friends a number of times but I don't LIKE playing cards so it's just easier and more of a relief for me to just let him go and have fun with his friends.
"Joined at the waist and sharing one brain" does NOT always make for a successful relationship.
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Really? Perhaps you should go back to Page 1 because the topic that I read is about a bunch of woman who want to take a mutual friend out to dinner and dancing and sleep in without having to worry about housework or the kids and as a result they are getting grief about it from their husband's who do the same thing, albeit in a hunting trip.
No, it's not about that at all. It's about women wanting to **** it up and drink 'til dawn and act like hookers....don't you know? Ridiculous, lame and tired.
No, it's not about that at all. It's about women wanting to **** it up and drink 'til dawn and act like hookers....don't you know? Ridiculous, lame and tired.
This thread reminds me of the game we played as kids called "Telephone", where you would whisper something to someone down a long line of people and by the time you got to the end it was completely changed.
A bunch of married women want to go out for dinner and dancing on Page 1 and by Page 15 they are hookers soliciting clients and servicing them behind the bar.
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This thread reminds me of the game we played as kids called "Telephone", where you would whisper something to someone down a long line of people and by the time you got to the end it was completely changed.
A bunch of married women want to go out for dinner and dancing on Page 1 and by Page 15 they are hookers soliciting clients and servicing them behind the bar.
Yup. The projection is just unreal and says a lot. Whatever. I know who I am and what I do. If men want to label me as a hooker for having a GNO, I'll take that chance and no, I won't respect them in the morning.
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Somewhere on p. 13, there was a post about "throwing in a little alcohol and peer-pressure."
That is the point I'm trying to make. If you don't trust your spouse b/c s/he can't handle his or her liquor, or because they don't "handle peer pressure very well," the marital problem is a lot bigger than GNO and ignoring that fact while "forbidding" GNO is like covering a slit throat with a bandaid. It's gonna get ugly if you are married to someone who is that immature. Face it and encourage them to get some counseling so they can grow the heck up!
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Re: The girls night out debacle... 
Perhaps you should go back to Page 1 because the topic that I read is about a bunch of woman who want to take a mutual friend out to dinner and dancing and sleep in without having to worry about housework or the kids and as a result they are getting grief about it from their husband's who do the same thing, albeit in a hunting trip. 
