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post #1 of 55 (permalink) Old 01-18-2013, 06:07 AM Thread Starter
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Alpha Males and The Tooth-fairy

Both are fictional IMO.

(OK...maybe the tooth-fairy is real.)
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I honestly cannot understand this idea that alpha men are selfish, uncaring, narcissitic pricks. Where the hell did this notion come from? I dont understand how people can say an alpha is a leader and yet at the same time he doesnt have a caring bone in his body?

This makes no damn sense to me.
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Yeah, he can alpha his way out my damn door. I don't want some "yes" man, but I certainly don't want some piece of crap who cares about nothing. Why not just get a dildo? I mean all you have to do is stick it in the drawer and not look at it again until the next time.

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A 'leader' in a capitalist society is usually a ruthless, profit-mongering b@stard (and usually male), so perhaps that's the only way some men know how to 'lead'. As a society maybe we've trained our leaders that way, instead of training them to care for the group, look out for the people they lead, and do what is in the group's best interest, not the leader's best interest.
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I think a lot of the hate for the whole "alpha-beta" topic comes from the thought that alpha is good, beta is bad and a person is only alpha or beta. World isn't black and white like that.

No, alpha isn't inherently good. It is about confidence and leading. It breeds attraction.
No, beta isn't inherently bad. It is about humbleness and hardwork. It breeds bonding.

Attraction without enough bonding makes short and only sexual relationships. Bonding without enough attraction puts you in a friendzone that you cannot escape if you try for a thousand years if you don't grow some balls.

And nobody is truly alpha or truly beta. It is a sliding scale. People aren't one-diensional, they have lots of different qualities.

These are my views, of course. There are a lot of different authors and views out there and that probably makes it a bit hard to get familiar with.

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Come on now, this is exactly the misandrist crap i always talk about. The world saw a woman named Margaret Thatcher. There are a lot of CEOs and managers who are woman, that are ruthless and conniving. Power corrupts people, it has nothing to do with being male or female.

And btw, when women understand their own nature and stop falling for "bad boys" and players, the whole alpha-beta business will stop I assure you.

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Yeah, he can alpha his way out my damn door. I don't want some "yes" man, but I certainly don't want some piece of crap who cares about nothing. Why not just get a dildo? I mean all you have to do is stick it in the drawer and not look at it again until the next time.
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A 'leader' in a capitalist society is usually a ruthless, profit-mongering b@stard (and usually male), so perhaps that's the only way some men know how to 'lead'. As a society maybe we've trained our leaders that way, instead of training them to care for the group, look out for the people they lead, and do what is in the group's best interest, not the leader's best interest.
Actually, I've been in the corporate world for a while. The most ruthless and aggressive people are middle management. The one at the top usually has a more even tempered demeanor and uses cooperative means to get the job done.
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If this is misandryst....
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A 'leader' in a capitalist society is usually a ruthless, profit-mongering b@stard (and usually male),
Come on now, this is exactly the misandrist crap i always talk about. The world saw a woman named Margaret Thatcher. There are a lot of CEOs and managers who are woman, that are ruthless and conniving. Power corrupts people, it has nothing to do with being male or female.
How is this not misogynist?

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And btw, when women understand their own nature and stop falling for "bad boys" and players, the whole alpha-beta business will stop I assure you.

I'm sorry but I think the alpha/beta model is crap and just as bad as the feminazi stuff that I hear from bitter women. People need to be responsible for themselves. I don't like either because both just point the finger and cry victim. "We're not allowed to settle things like men and hit each other when we get mad! (sniff)" "Men are evil sacks of scum! (hiss)."

Here's a hint for relationships. Don't be a doormat and don't be a douche.

That is all.

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I think a lot of the hate for the whole "alpha-beta" topic comes from the thought that alpha is good, beta is bad and a person is only alpha or beta. World isn't black and white like that.

No, alpha isn't inherently good. It is about confidence and leading. It breeds attraction.
No, beta isn't inherently bad. It is about humbleness and hardwork. It breeds bonding.

Attraction without enough bonding makes short and only sexual relationships. Bonding without enough attraction puts you in a friendzone that you cannot escape if you try for a thousand years if you don't grow some balls.

And nobody is truly alpha or truly beta. It is a sliding scale. People aren't one-diensional, they have lots of different qualities.

These are my views, of course. There are a lot of different authors and views out there and that probably makes it a bit hard to get familiar with.



Come on now, this is exactly the misandrist crap i always talk about. The world saw a woman named Margaret Thatcher. There are a lot of CEOs and managers who are woman, that are ruthless and conniving. Power corrupts people, it has nothing to do with being male or female.

And btw, when women understand their own nature and stop falling for "bad boys" and players, the whole alpha-beta business will stop I assure you.
Bad boys are only interesting for so long. Most women grow out of this phase and find someone they can relax with after working all week.

Did you ever notice how elderly people all sort of look alike? Why would someone want to be with an elderly "bad boy?"

LOLOLOLOL

(I crack myself up.)
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I honestly cannot understand this idea that alpha men are selfish, uncaring, narcissitic pricks. Where the hell did this notion come from? I dont understand how people can say an alpha is a leader and yet at the same time he doesnt have a caring bone in his body?

This makes no damn sense to me.
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I think its a conflation of two different phenomen

I was looking out the window yesterday and saw a teenage boy go by with three teenage girls in tow. They all seemed to be very enamored with him.

Five years ago, this little guy was amusing himself by killing neighborhood cats with an air rifle and throwing rocks at horses. Puberty hit and slapped an ingratiating smile on his face and now he's irresistible.

I don't know a name for the phenomenon, but it's real. Most men notice in their early teens that the 'Biff Tannens' of the world are never lonely. They're not attractive to all women and I don't mean to imply that at all. I guess in extreme forms, this would be actual hybristophilia.

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If this is misandryst....


How is this not misogynist?




I'm sorry but I think the alpha/beta model is crap and just as bad as the feminazi stuff that I hear from bitter women. People need to be responsible for themselves. I don't like either because both just point the finger and cry victim. "We're not allowed to settle things like men and hit each other when we get mad! (sniff)" "Men are evil sacks of scum! (hiss)."

Here's a hint for relationships. Don't be a doormat and don't be a douche.

That is all.
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I think its a conflation of two different phenomen

I was looking out the window yesterday and saw a teenage boy go by with three teenage girls in tow. They all seemed to be very enamored with him.

Five years ago, this little guy was amusing himself by killing neighborhood cats with an air rifle and throwing rocks at horses. Puberty hit and slapped an ingratiating smile on his face and now he's irresistible.

I don't know a name for the phenomenon, but it's real. Most men notice in their early teens that the 'Biff Tannens' of the world are never lonely. They're not attractive to all women and I don't mean to imply that at all. I guess in extreme forms, this would be actual hybristophilia.
I guess some women go for psychopaths.
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I guess some women go for psychopaths.
Like Ted Bundy, a serial killer who murdered scores of women:
"Handsome, arrogant, and articulate, he drew scores of rapt groupies to the jammed courtroom each day. Some were cookie-cutter blondes desperate to catch Ted's eye.... " -The Only Living Witness: The True Story Of Ted Bundy
This particular mental disorder is almost entirely an affliction of women. I don't think anybody really knows why.
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