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Old 05-19-2010, 03:09 PM   #136 (permalink)
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I would think you might need a bit more proof before exposing this to anyone. If you start calling people to say that your wife changed her underwear and then went to happy hour, most people would look at you weird and tell you to relax.

I get it - but I've read your whole story and done a lot of reading about how to spot a cheater in the last year.

Whatever you do (sounds like you know this) DON'T LEAVE YOUR HOUSE.

I'm not sure how to handle the kids. If she starts making plans to leave and sounds like she plans to take them along, I'd be calling a lawyer - although I'm sure there are people here who know a lot more about how to handle that part than me.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:04 PM   #137 (permalink)
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And also - just my opinion - unless you are ready to end it, don't assume that its all over. Divorce is not the only possible outcome.

There's a lot of smoke here, so there's probably a fire.

Sounds like she has bad intentions, but maybe she hasn't acted on them yet. Its possible she went to happy hour with high hopes, and nothing happened. Or maybe they "just" kissed. Still lousy - but not necessarily divorce-worthy - thats up to you.

I've always believed every case is different, but if you haven't done so, read "showtime's" thread in the Infidelity section. He followed a lot of good advice from AC, Pete, Turnera and others and was able to quickly turn things around and save his marriage.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:16 PM   #138 (permalink)
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I'd be hiring a PI.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:25 PM   #139 (permalink)
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I just spent a whole two hours reading this whole forum and i have to say yes it sounds like she has lost interest in you, but is scared to leave because she doesnt know what will happen. Like she might be wondering is the grass really greener on teh other side. After being married so long she has gotten into the same routine and she wants to have fun again. Im sorry your going threw this cause Im sure it isnt a good feeling. You have pointed out so many things that says CHEATING...

I think I know more about this from your wife side then I really would like to tell.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:47 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Gosh, I feal for you brother. I've read your whole story, and it does seem like she's looking for something outside of your marraige. My husband works for a GPS tracking device company. I'd get one of thoes. There are trackers that are compleatly hidden in the car, and you can track it on your computer or cell phone with 3 second updates. You can even get allerts to movement in the car without the car running. They're not too expensive, mabey $100-200.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:04 PM   #141 (permalink)
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... CHEATERS WILL LIE TO THE DEATH THAT NOTHING HAPPENED UNLESS CAUGHT RED HANDED. I lied right to the end that there was no PA until the wife and OW met to trade notes...


As you know my ozark cousin (giggle), I specialize in this area and have a LOT of experience--a little is personal but decades of working with people. I can testify that I got the bill for Mr. and Mrs. Ex-Affaircare the weekend my exH took his Whistress to a certain VERY fancy hotel that we had never been to. We worked at that hotel on some computer security stuff, and I was able to get security tape of him and her ENTERING the hotel together that night and leaving together in the morning. Know what his response was to that?

"How did you do that?"
Me (puzzled): "Do what?"
Him: "Doctor the tape to make it look like I was there."
No kidding!! RED HANDED and he still tried to squirm out with a lie!! (I can laugh about it now.)

I've also known (and worked with) many, many people literally have caught their spouse red-handed--and yes I mean WALK IN ON THEM DURING THE ACT. Do they admit it? NO! To the last one they all say, "It's not what it looks like" as they put on their clothing!

So just so you know I agree cheatinghubby here. You are not going to "get the truth" from your wife, and really the delusional one is you for expecting someone who's actively unfaithful to tell the truth. It just is NOT going to happen! That's very disappointing but it's okay. You can proceed under the assumption she will not speak the truth and do everything she can to distract you and throw up smoke and mirrors.

Regarding the thong: not a smoking gun but again, pretty incriminating. It is EXTREMELY rare to come home during the day to change, and if it were due to that issue there would be evidence such as what you looked for. Also from a female point of view, thong during the monthly cycle = NO! I don't like them that much normally but during that time of the month...NEVAH!

Finally, I like where you're going with verifying with the waitress. That is just plain checking up on the facts--it will either confirm or refute what time she left and with whom. The waitress may not remember her--but then again if so it may be helpful. The thing is that looking for something concrete EITHER WAY is good, and at this point I think your concerns are legitimate. If it had been a while and her behavior was matching what she said, if she wasn't hiding things and wanting time to sneak off by herself...I would say maybe you are paranoid. But her behavior is NOT appropriate and it does not look good (even if it is). She can choose to be open and honest and that is not what she's choosing.

Sooooo..stay the course. Keep looking for some evidence (you're not nuts). And when you find it, print it, copy it, and put it somewhere not in the house. You stay in the home and the kids stay in the home in their own beds. If she wants to have an affair and carry on, SHE can move out and live with loverboy.
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:53 PM   #142 (permalink)
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affaircare... thanks.... i'll let you know later tonight what i find at the restaurant... i'm pretty sure they're going to remember her... i have the name of the waitress and everything. just seems odd to me that she paid a bill at 9:00 then didn't leave until 11:15. her level of intoxication when she got home at 11:30 doesn't support the story that someone only had two martini's...
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:35 PM   #143 (permalink)
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the waitress remembered her group. it was my wife and two other girls. one guy was there, but left. and another guy showed up. my wife told me it was just "the girls" and did not tell me any men were in attendance. this may be her defense mechanism thinking i would overreact. the waitress said my wife paid her tab, but then stayed because the man that showed up bought all the girls a couple of rounds. she said they stayed pretty late, supporting the story that she left at 11:00 and got home at 11:30...

i think i overreacted, but the panty thing still seems questionable to me. clearly my wife was where she claimed to be, but did lie about who was in attendance... what gives anymore...
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:15 PM   #144 (permalink)
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I don't think you overreacted. Something is definitely not right.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:43 PM   #145 (permalink)
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Attach the GPS and stop raising this with her until/unless you have absolute proof.

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the waitress remembered her group. it was my wife and two other girls. one guy was there, but left. and another guy showed up. my wife told me it was just "the girls" and did not tell me any men were in attendance. this may be her defense mechanism thinking i would overreact. the waitress said my wife paid her tab, but then stayed because the man that showed up bought all the girls a couple of rounds. she said they stayed pretty late, supporting the story that she left at 11:00 and got home at 11:30...

i think i overreacted, but the panty thing still seems questionable to me. clearly my wife was where she claimed to be, but did lie about who was in attendance... what gives anymore...
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:11 AM   #146 (permalink)
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Weekends over Ozarksguy.........any updates?
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:10 PM   #147 (permalink)
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here's the final chapter...

my wife went MIA this weekend... and i found her at a co-workers apartment on saturday. ironically, it wasn't the guy from the EA that started this whole mess.

we spent an hour fighting in that parking lot... she accused me of tracking her, controlling her, being CRAZY and psychotic. she went back in the apartment.... then came home a couple of hours later. she left again to go out of town overnight... checked into a hotel, but then came home because she said she feared i would leave the children with a sitter and come try to find her.

she says i've pushed her beyond the limits... and in fact we are filling for divorce. she says she loves me but isn't in love with me and just wants to move on with her life and focus on our children. i'm resigned to this fact... although i'm NOT going to take all the blame for the breakdown in our marriage. if she had not given me a reason to "track" her and be "suspicious" then i wouldn't have become that person.

and i've learned a lot on this board about the behaviors of people who cheat... and she's exhibiting them all... especially by placing blame on me. honestly, i'm done. at this point, i'm leaving our home... we've come to agreements on custody and some of the assets and it's just over.

thanks to everyone who tried to help... to all those who kept saying trust your gut... thanks! you were right...
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Old 05-25-2010, 02:29 PM   #148 (permalink)
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jesus, that sucks. I was rooting for you to be wrong, since your situation is freaking identical to mine, I just feel like I'm maybe three weeks behind you. good luck.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:01 PM   #149 (permalink)
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I'm so sorry.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:14 PM   #150 (permalink)
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honestly at this point i'm not in mourning for my wife... it's my kids that i'm just heartsick over...

i will say i think it will be hard to ever trust anyone in my life ever again. not trying to be negative... but it's just how i feel.
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