BTW, men. . .if you are ever in an argument that's heated with your wife and you are losing, you can always say,
"You know who you are just like? You are just like your mother!!!"
They love that. It always wins the argument.
Ask the women here.
Trust me.
Hahaha kind of true. Although I respect and adore some of my moms traits, I'm not like her and will not turn into her although I do have a few of her traits, but I also have some of my father's. Guess I'm a 50/50 mix lol Posted via Mobile Device
"Deep within man dwell those slumbering powers; powers that would astonish him, that he would never dream of possessing; forces that would revolutionize his life if aroused and put into action." - Orison Swett Marden
NG,
I really did target this list at men. And yet I agree that it works well in reverse. And actually I DO love my W more because she has number 12 going full steam. She does assert herself consistently and in a fair and rational way.
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With the exception of #12 - these all seem to me to apply just as much to women as they do to men. And #12 applies to women regarding the other relationships with the men in their day to day lives - co-workers, boss, etc.,
I love my strong opinionated educated woman. She does attempt to bust / remove my balls. I can't explain why she does it anymore than I can tell you why this has become such a great source of entertainment to me.
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We're equal as citizens, as human beings, we all have equal rights and such but we are not the same. We each have our roles to "play".
Even from birth, you can observe boys and girls and as much as they're similar, they also have major differences. Here's the simplest example, most boys are fascinated with guns and cars and girls with dolls and makeup. My own daughter she's an infant and loves dolls, there are cars and boy toys in the house as well but she doesn't go near them lol
Yeah a lot of boys will try their mom's clothes and makeup too and girls do play with guns and cars too but in the end they end up with what's "assigned" to them...men being hunters and providers and women being mothers and homemakers.
Now when a woman crushes her boy's balls and tells him it's ok to act like a girl, and encourages her daughter that it's ok to behave like a boy, that's where everything kind of goes wrong, and that's how we end up with doormats and "opinionated" women. Not even education has so much to do with today's gender problems as how we were raised to think.
I wonder if there is a cure for marriage problems. Because there isn't a cure for human problems.
Deep down in human nature, they are selfish. Everybody wants to protect their own rights. They only think what they don't get, they don't think what they get.
Men are becoming more obsessed with their career, they want to win among their male competition, they ignore their duties as a husband and a father. They stay out all day and all night, think that they are working for their family, actually they are working for themselves, that's why there are so many unhappy women.
Women have to become independent because they don't trust men. If they are well taken care of and well respected by their men, I don't think they want to go out and be career women. But after tasting the good feeling being independent, they ignore their duties as a wife and a mother, they forget that they are still women, they need men. When they realize that, it is already too late.
Men, women, is there any chance that you let go of yourself, and work together for your happy marriage?
Noticed a thread today in the Sex section - a guy asking what women want in bed.
Best answer by far - don't worry about what "women" want - try asking your wife what she might want!
Perfect answer!!!
Sex is about him and her. He doesn't represent all men. She doesn't represent all women. As long as his needs and her needs are satisfied, then they are satisfied!
Yes. Boys and young men require positive, and present, male role models.
Men need to spend time in the company of men, rather than avoiding such gatherings because their female partner disapproves or feels slighted.
Men need to follow a relationship guide primarily laid out by other men ... not women. The guide is simple. It is far more about being honest with yourself and others, and having a personal code of conduct that centers around the truth of who you are than it is about trying to be who you think you should to hold onto, and make a woman happy.
Don't rely on a woman to define who you are, or to act as your anchor to personal happiness.
We engage in intimate relationships for sex. We stay in them because there are elements that contribute more fulfillment than sex alone. Take sex out of the equation and you may have a relationship, but it is no longer an intimate one. That's a man's definition pure and simple.
That can be the working model for Emperor SG's United States of ManLand Charter.
I think the main thing to remember about all of this is that these are all generalizations. And that's fine. . .we need to generalize.
If marriage is like building a house, well, you need a blueprint and I think what we have offered (man in charge, woman as council) is a simple blueprint.
If you want to deviate from the blueprint and it works for you, because you have a sunroom in the back, or a swimming pool in the backyard, well, do what works for you, of course. I would just say deviate with care as I think the principles for a sound structure within a marriage have been laid out here.
Modern Men and Modern Women, be aware - they don't make houses like they used to.
And for God's sake. . .no going potty in front of each other. That's going in the charter by decree.
But doesn't that apply here as well? That not all women want the same things in the bedroom - or even just the same things in general?
I agree with you.
I actually feel very low today.
Nobody is the same. Is there a rule?
She could be your perfect match, but with somebody else, she might be horrible. You might be able to make her happy, but somebody else might make her feel miserable.
No matter what, I want this world to be with more happy people!!!
I think the main thing to remember about all of this is that these are all generalizations. And that's fine. . .we need to generalize.
If marriage is like building a house, well, you need a blueprint and I think what we have offered (man in charge, woman as council) is a simple blueprint.
If you want to deviate from the blueprint and it works for you, because you have a sunroom in the back, or a swimming pool in the backyard, well, do what works for you, of course. I would just say deviate with care as I think the principles for a sound structure within a marriage have been laid out here.
Modern Men and Modern Women, be aware - they don't make houses like they used to.
When we buy houses , they are all very beautiful. Why do a lot of houses still stay beautiful and some other houses crumble after many years?
When people get married, they all have beautiful smiles, they all vow to be together forever. Why do they change after a few years?
A house needs decoration to make it beautiful. A house needs the owner to clean it and fix it regularly.
How about a marriage?
What makes a marriage beautiful? Appreciation? What helps a marriage stay? Compromise?
There are more, more, more ways to help marriages stay!!!
I truly don't believe that most people understand the level of commitment that they are making when they get married. The years of ups and downs. The meaning of "for better or worse."
We all have our parents to model from - but of course most of them did their best to hide the bad and difficult times from us. My wife's parents still seem "perfect" - but my MIL will sometimes open up a bit to my wife about their problems - about how she feels stuck.
And no one starts reading a book, or going to counseling, until its almost too late to save it.
So - I keep thinking "what was the original question" that started this thread? Oh yeah - modern men. Maybe it doesn't matter what kind of man we are - modern or neanderthal or somewhere in between - whether we're more like Ray Ramano or John Wayne - if we and our partners don't understand what we are getting ourselves into.
"Nobody told me there'd be days like these...most peculiar"
It's important to understand and accept the politicization of gender relationships. For two generations women have been taught that housework, motherhood, and even being a wife is a form of masculine oppression. This is why the word "submit" is so powerful and dangerous. Women are now supposed to be "strong and independent" which has been translated into "bossy and domineering", traits which most men - not the "Nice Guys" - find repellent and wildly unattractive.
These lessons simply can't be undone. Is it any wonder why women are so confused and conflicted? Their biology tells them one thing (safety, security, and family) and social expectations tell them something completely different ("never submit to a man!").
Men are also facing mixed messages. Consider the recent Newsweek article "Mens Lib" where the authors state that men must act in a more feminine manner.
Men must escalate their essential masculine strengths in order to succeed in their lives and their relationships. Being the Nice Guy and letting women have their way will most always result in a failed relationship.
Now, if women could realize that being bossy and domineering is not attractive.
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