Honestly the arrogance on this forum is sometimes shocking.
"Healthy people" also want to enjoy sexually exciting relationships.
If you doubt there is the powerful sexual compulsion to a prostitutes devotion to her pimp, then I suggest you talk to a few.
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The psychological manipulation of prostitutes using fear, physical abuse, and financial control, coupled with sexual abuse, drug addiction is so far away from discussing male and female martial roles as possible.
Healthy people generally do not want to be beaten. Those that protect their abusers are trying to survive.
Why delay it until you're 40 if you can be finished when you're in your mid 20s? Personally I got married after I graduated and I would not wait until I was 40 to do so.
Because society needs your ovaries, and homemaking skills, which requires multi-tasking, which men can't do, while you were off studying beer, botany, and Beowulf at college.
Kids need a nutritionist/cook and the rampant childhood obesity is proof.
Because society needs your ovaries, and homemaking skills, which requires multi-tasking, which men can't do, while you were off studying beer, botany, and Beowulf at college.
Kids need a nutritionist/cook and the rampant childhood obesity is proof.
That's why.
Next question.
Who's kids? College/university students don't have kids and therefore they're free to pursue whatever they want.
Obese kids should be taken care of by their mothers and that's a bit of a different subject.
Well, of course you are confused. You are a woman in the Men's Clubhouse, LOL.
No, what I mean is society has lost fulltime mothers for reasons way beyond current Modern Woman's control.
With the loss of fulltime mothers and the rise of "quick foods", our kids have suffered nutritionally.
We need young women to get back in the home and set things straight. I know I worry about that as a single, divorced father.
Which is why I am taking cooking classes.
So I can meet a woman who knows how to cook (you didn't think I was actually there to learn how to cook, did you?), a hot Italian woman with a pretty smile, with a first name like Rachel, or a cute Chinese woman perhaps. I like Chinese food and it can be healthy. Or maybe Kelly can cook too. . .
What are my kids supposed to eat the rest of their childhood? Hotdogs and Tombstone pizza?
Now I have a university degree, then got married, had a baby, now I'm getting divorced. But my initial goal was to get a degree, get married, have a baby, raise her until she was at least in primary school and then pursue a career. Is that good enough? That would make me over 30...
Well, of course you are confused. You are a woman in the Men's Clubhouse, LOL.
No, what I mean is society has lost fulltime mothers for reasons way beyond current Modern Woman's control.
With the loss of fulltime mothers and the rise of "quick foods", our kids have suffered nutritionally.
We need young women to get back in the home and set things straight. I know I worry about that as a single, divorced father.
Which is why I am taking cooking classes.
So I can meet a woman who knows how to cook (you didn't think I was actually there to learn how to cook, did you?), a hot Italian woman with a pretty smile, with a first name like Rachel, or a cute Chinese woman perhaps. I like Chinese food and it can be healthy. Or maybe Kelly can cook too. . .
What are my kids supposed to eat the rest of their childhood? Hotdogs and Tombstone pizza?
See the thing is a woman can't be both 100% devoted to being a mother and wife and at the same time being a career woman. She needs to choose either frozen foods and career now, or healthy food and career later. I would choose healthy food=healthy kids lol I think I got what you meant.
Wellll. . .we are both being civil and joking here (and I thank you for keeping the tone like that). . .but yes, I don't think we as a society can "have our cake and eat it too."
Yes, some women pull it off - become edubacated, get married, have babies, have careers, have well-adjusted, healthy children. . .and happy marriages.
Statistics seem to side with me though on this on what's really happening out there rather than what's happening on TV.
As a recovering Nice Guy, it isn't only about struggling in your marriage. Its also about how you interact with your children, your boss, your co-workers - and most importantly, how you view yourself. I also believe that most of the principles regarding how to recover from being a "nice guy" can also be applied to women who are putting the needs of others ahead of their own.
I still believe that it is as much about personality as it is gender roles. An educated woman with a dominant personality can be an excellent fit for an educated "nice guy." Relationships can only sustain one dominant personality type - whether its male or female. Two stubborn, strong-willed people will not likely make life-long companions.
I also struggle with much of this because I have two young daughters. I want them to KNOW that they are truly EQUAL to men, but I also want them to know that there is great pride to be had in being a faithful wife and loving mother.
They aren't "equal to men", but I'd like to think they are "equitable" in abilities and skill and you would teach them that as a recovering nice guy.
To me, equal means the same.
2 + 2 = 4 ( in a base 10 numeric system )
To me, to say
man = woman
is illogical and I think for about 30 years nobody has had the testosterone to stand up and say how ridiculous Gloria Steinham's mathmatical theories are.
I also struggle with much of this because I have two young daughters. I want them to KNOW that they are truly EQUAL to men, but I also want them to know that there is great pride to be had in being a faithful wife and loving mother.
I feel equal to men. I just know men and women aren't the same. I think men and women are equal, we just have different strengths and weaknesses.
They aren't "equal to men", but I'd like to think they are "equitable" in abilities and skill and you would teach them that as a recovering nice guy.
To me, equal means the same.
2 + 2 = 4 ( in a base 10 numeric system )
To me, to say
man = woman
is illogical and I think for about 30 years nobody has had the testosterone to stand up and say how ridiculous Gloria Steinham's mathmatical theories are.
I think that's semantics. I do feel equal to men. To me it would be like superheroes who have diffrent abilites. They are equally matched, but their strengths lie in different areas. No one is stronger than the other, they are just different.
Well, if we had a pi$$ing contest - for distance - yes - I would win every time.
Do you / we / the fine readers of this board truly think that men have superior intellect or are better decision makers?
Or is it simply because women make the breast milk and have the babies that leaves them with an "equitable" 49% of the vote within a "healthy" marriage?
Well, if we had a pi$$ing contest - for distance - yes - I would win every time.
Do you / we / the fine readers of this board truly think that men have superior intellect or are better decision makers?
Or is it simply because women make the breast milk and have the babies that leaves them with an "equitable" 49% of the vote within a "healthy" marriage?
No, I do not feel my husband has superior intellect or is a better decision maker than me. I just feel like his ego is more fragile than mine and he needs to be in charge more than I do. I don't desire to be in charge, but he does. It's like a need for him, but it's not a need for me. In fact, I would prefer I don't have to be in charge.
I will tell my husband how I feel. I do get a vote, but I let him have the final decision. It makes sense to me because there are only two of us and somebody has to have the final say or else nothing would get done.
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