Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by AFEH
VT, maybe think on this, your objective truth is subjective.
Bob
Bob, if you have a point, I sure wish you would make it. You are about as direct as the river near my house. Playing Old Mr. Sage or something? There was a guy on another group who used to say "Seek truth within, grasshopper" every time he had nothing actually useful to say. Weird.
Someone's interpretation or attempted understanding of objective truth is always going to be subjective. The truth is still objectively out there waiting to be learned.
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by Brennan
Whoa Scanner! I didn't see women gang up on her. I liked her and I defended her.
We all have different points of view. I didn't always agree with hers or others but I doubt there is a group of women on this forum with pitchforks that bombarded Swedish, Mommy22 or Amplexor with requests to ban her because of differing viewpoints. You never know what might have gone on behind the scenes. PM's and such. I am certain the mods/Chris have access to that too.
The finger pointing is not appreciated.
Seems to me if anyone ganged up on someone THEY would get banned, not the one getting ganged up on.
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by Brennan
Whoa Scanner! I didn't see women gang up on her. I liked her and I defended her.
We all have different points of view. I didn't always agree with hers or others but I doubt there is a group of women on this forum with pitchforks that bombarded Swedish, Mommy22 or Amplexor with requests to ban her because of differing viewpoints. You never know what might have gone on behind the scenes. PM's and such. I am certain the mods/Chris have access to that too.
The finger pointing is not appreciated.
*puts pitchfork away and whistles*
No, no of course not.
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
Greenpearl almost seemed a bit too good to be true in some ways. Not surprised her stay was very short lived.
I'm not sure that she was "trolling" - but I think that a woman who comes to a marriage forum and brags about how perfect they are and how much they love sex is likely to get some private attention.
I kind of expected her to get called out on this at one point during one of our discussions about a "need" for friends of the opposite sex. She was going on and on about how she felt a need to talk to men, and that her husband had approved of her coming to this board to meet that need.
I kept expecting SOMEONE to pop up and challenge the need for a woman who is SOOO happily married to need to talk to other men so badly.
In other words - I think she had a need for male attention, knew this was a good place to find it, and likely got some thrown her way privately.
Don't get me wrong - we all enjoy that type of attention - but if I start spending most of my time discussing my Greatness in the Women's Lounge, I'm guessing my days would be numbered...
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by nice777guy
One of the first things I did when my wife moved into her apartment was dig my old bass guitar amp out of the garage and move the bass into the living room next to the computer where all my music is.
And now - after 10 years of 'thinking about it' - I signed up for a Judo class. I come home with bruises all over my arms - my arm was hurting last night and kept waking me up - and I LOVE IT. Its challenging. Its manly. And the psychological aspect of finally doing something that I'd threatened to do for years is immeasurable.
But - it took my wife nearly leaving me to light the fire under my butt and make those changes. Like you said about your hubby - I thought I was being "good" by just being at home and agreeing to put my guitar and amp away because I'm a "grown-up" now - and they didn't fit the decor.
I thought I was making her happy but I found out the hard way that I was wrong.
I just don't know an easy way to force someone who is comfortably unhappy into making positive changes.
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by Brennan
Conrad,
Now we are in almost a punishment phase if you will. He knows I want to go out with him. He says "next week" and then next week roles around and it doesn't happen. Passive aggressive BS crap is what it is. The ignoring me part is also passive aggressive. He knows it hurts me and I think that is the point. This behvior didn't just happen over night. It is 17 years in the making of him feeling slighted, belittled and hurt. My resentment is 17 years in the making of being his lowest priority, constantly let down and totally ignored. So I would yell and say awful things to him. He essentially removed me from his life in turn. Hence the "death spiral" that Deejo talks about. Vicious vicious cycle. I don't know how to break it.
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by AFEH
Forgive.
Bob - not trying to start your fan club here, although it kind of feels that way.
I started to type this yesterday - that Forgiveness is the cure for Resentment.
I had just kind of reached that point where I felt I was typing too much and had reminded myself how bad it would be if someone would mistake me as someone who actually knows whats going on around here!
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by nice777guy
Don't get me wrong - we all enjoy that type of attention - but if I start spending most of my time discussing my Greatness in the Women's Lounge, I'm guessing my days would be numbered...
This is all theory - I know nothing of the truth.
My husband always jokes that people who don't sound quite right are really 500lb men living in the mother's basement getting their kicks on the 'net.
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by nice777guy
Greenpearl almost seemed a bit too good to be true in some ways. Not surprised her stay was very short lived.
I'm not sure that she was "trolling" - but I think that a woman who comes to a marriage forum and brags about how perfect they are and how much they love sex is likely to get some private attention.
I kind of expected her to get called out on this at one point during one of our discussions about a "need" for friends of the opposite sex. She was going on and on about how she felt a need to talk to men, and that her husband had approved of her coming to this board to meet that need.
I kept expecting SOMEONE to pop up and challenge the need for a woman who is SOOO happily married to need to talk to other men so badly.
In other words - I think she had a need for male attention, knew this was a good place to find it, and likely got some thrown her way privately.
Don't get me wrong - we all enjoy that type of attention - but if I start spending most of my time discussing my Greatness in the Women's Lounge, I'm guessing my days would be numbered...
This is all theory - I know nothing of the truth.
Test it out! That would be entertaining.
She seemed too good to be true to me as well. I told myself that it might be the cultural difference that maybe as an American I couldn't relate to her. I don't know. Her posts were always like:
Listen to BBW and Mem and all men because they are always right. I looooooooove my husband and when he spanks my butt I loooooooove that too and I love to get all sexy and bounce because my husband likes it but no girls like me because they are soooooo jealous because I am hot and skinny perfect!!!!!!
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by Brennan
Dr. Scanner,
I hope I don't come across as taking my gender role too seriously. Perhaps my opinions are different because I married a guy who doesn't take gender roles seriously. It's really blended. Part of me wishes it wasn't.
And forgive me good Dr. For some reason I thought you were from Jersey. I could have sworn when you said something about Michzz being from the West Coast that you said something about Jersey. Obviously I read that wrong. Never thought mafia though. Your writing is too good to be a "Vinny".
It is ironic that so many guys here write about having them removed, and so many women here write about how they wish - somehow - to re-attach them.
I think the seriousness associated with gender roles has something to do with it.
Re: Old but telling article about men doing housework (UK)
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Originally Posted by Trenton
Listen to BBW and Mem and all men because they are always right. I looooooooove my husband and when he spanks my butt I loooooooove that too and I love to get all sexy and bounce because my husband likes it but no girls like me because they are soooooo jealous because I am hot and skinny perfect!!!!!!
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