A woman on a healthy diet doesn't need to control her weight, she naturally eats enough to cover her bones, and not enough to get stuck in a chair. Literally no effort at control required. Nature says what to eat and when, providing healthy food is available and artificial foods aren't.
The problem is, western women don't eat enough fresh vegetables nowadays. It's all quick-grown junk, even the veggies.
'Thick' women and boney women are both symptoms of poor food choices.
Quote from a co-worker on why he was chasing a 'meatier' woman
"You are selecting your woman for speed. I am picking mine for comfort."
Eh. I like Kate Beckinsale...and I would not consider her particularly 'meaty' and I'm older.
But I also note that my eye strays to women who are heavier than normal. But they tend to be a specific shape or personality type.
But by the same token: Jamie Pressley from her early days, Kate Moss, Kalista Flockheart...none of those women appealed to me at all. All of them were far too thin. Bony.
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Here is a follow up question: Is it that the guys are attracted to 'meaty' or they figure they are adjusting their goals to a more realistic level, much like the fox from Aesop's in the vineyard?
The guy can't pull a 120, so he goes for a 160 instead and justifies it in his mind for 'what I always wanted in the first place"
Because as I said before: the porn that sells the MOST are girls who are not 'meaty'. They are busty thin girls. So are you going to believe the words or the money?
Quote from a co-worker on why he was chasing a 'meatier' woman
I must say I like the title of this thread :lol::rofl:
"You are selecting your woman for speed. I am picking mine for comfort."
Eh. I like Kate Beckinsale...and I would not consider her particularly 'meaty' and I'm older.
But I also note that my eye strays to women who are heavier than normal. But they tend to be a specific shape or personality type.
But by the same token: Jamie Pressley from her early days, Kate Moss, Kalista Flockheart...none of those women appealed to me at all. All of them were far too thin. Bony.
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Here is a follow up question: Is it that the guys are attracted to 'meaty' or they figure they are adjusting their goals to a more realistic level, much like the fox from Aesop's in the vineyard?
The guy can't pull a 120, so he goes for a 160 instead and justifies it in his mind for 'what I always wanted in the first place"
Because as I said before: the porn that sells the MOST are girls who are not 'meaty'. They are busty thin girls. So are you going to believe the words or the money?
Phew .... this is all way too complicated for me . Actually maybe to simplified actually :scratchhead::
It is not only about the looks (sounds stupid? -> It is true) and it is not only about the meat on the bones (or no meat on the bones).
Sure enough as a man I run around in life looking at women and think nice, very nice, not so nice but, etc but beautiful hair can offset too skinny, beautiful lips may offset too meaty - and a nice voice - especially if it is used to say interesting things ... alors la ... :lol:
Then again - for a second look, ther must be sthg sensual about the person.
So basically, as the saying goes from where I come from: ' there is a lid for every casserole:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Real life is not about looking like movie stars anyway. Those who think that way, and either try to compare their looks or the one the are with or want to be with to what they see on screen got it all wrong.
Just check out the internet for comparisons between the photoshopped and un-photoshopped version of stars.
I definitely prefer petite women, but I don't like rail-thin women. Athletic women are my preference.
Chubby, large, or heavy women do nothing for me. I'm a runner, and 5'10" and about 160, so it wouldn't make sense, in my mind, to be with a large woman.
Especially since I read often that men think an American size 8 is fat. And for those who mention it, their wives are never larger than a size 4.......... when the last I read, a size 14 is average.
Heck, no. But I think this could be a cultural thing. In some places, older woman really fill out, but in other places they do not. Heck, in some places these days the underage girls are meaty. So "meat" does not necessarily equate to maturity. Age is age, size is size.
Personally, my preference is for women who are shorter than I am and either lighter than me or no more than 20lbs heavier than I am.
That depends on your definition of curves. An hourglass figure has always been the preference when men choose an ideal female figure, for as long as this stuff has been recorded. But hourglass means they have a definite waist.
I find it sad that someone would equate thinner women with being liked only by dogs and not "men."
People come in all shapes and sizes. Just because someone is skinny, they shouldn't be put down down that way. Yet people get all kinds of flack for saying stuff about bigger people.
I hate that saying("Bones are for dogs, meat is for men") and in general, just don't like body shaming. For some reason it's not okay to ever say something negative about people who are fat("curvy" as many call it), but it's fine to bash people who are thin.
People come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. Women carry their weight differently, being an "apple" shape, "hour glass", "ruler", etc. I would never think one is so much better than the other. If the woman is eating healthy and not just sitting around, then her natural size is perfect.
I've always been on the thin side and have, many times, experienced bullying for it. I'm 5'5" and between a size 2 and 4. I can eat more than my husbandrofl: especially breastfeeding now), so I definitely don't starve myself. I'm very active, so I have never gained a huge amount of weight. You can say I'm "bony", but I don't think that makes me not attractive.
I always thought there were some primal / survival instincts that led men to women with curves. A larger chest, bigger hips and a slightly smaller waist suggest a better success rate for child bearing - or at least it did back in the cave-man days.
IMO, phrases like this are just another attempt at "fit bashing" fit women. My girlfriend is fit and athletic, but she's constantly bullied by over weight women who call her skinny (like that's an insult), and make fun of her healthy diet (she doesn't eat donuts and candy).
I'm attracted to women who are fit and healthy, natural curves in the right spots...the "meat" is usually not meat; it's often fat, and it's very insulting to consider fit as "bones" or skinny. Some people work really hard to maintain their health and get put by those who don't.
My girlfriend deals with this daily. No bones are visible on her body, but plenty of muscles are.
IMO, phrases like this are just another attempt at "fit bashing" fit women. My girlfriend is fit and athletic, but she's constantly bullied by over weight women who call her skinny (like that's an insult), and make fun of her healthy diet (she doesn't eat donuts and candy).
Some people work really hard to maintain their health and get put by those who don't.
My girlfriend deals with this daily. No bones are visible on her body, but plenty of muscles are.
I find women, who are healthy, attractive. Starving women evoke my desire to buy them a cheese Burger. Really overweight women don't trip my trigger either.
Women with sculpted muscles are an aphrodisiac! I have had to leave social settings, at times, when a muscular female is present, to keep from staring like a fool. I love the way a firm, strong body feels! Posted via Mobile Device
This is such a complex question. There is certainly a difference between finding someone attractive and wanting to have sex with them.
To be gender specific here, men are consistently being shamed about this issue. If I say that a woman who is 5'2" and weights 180 is not attractive to me, I am accused of being shallow and hey, she might have a great personality. I agree that she may have a great personality, but I reject the notion that I am being shallow. When we're naked in bed, it's not my STBW's personality that I'm banging.
I find a wide range of women attractive, but a very narrow subset that I find sexually appealing.
This is such a complex question. There is certainly a difference between finding someone attractive and wanting to have sex with them.
To be gender specific here, men are consistently being shamed about this issue. If I say that a woman who is 5'2" and weights 180 is not attractive to me, I am accused of being shallow and hey, she might have a great personality. I agree that she may have a great personality, but I reject the notion that I am being shallow. When we're naked in bed, it's not my STBW's personality that I'm banging.
I find a wide range of women attractive, but a very narrow subset that I find sexually appealing.
"She's got a great personality!" is girl-code (and probably man-code as well) for overweight. Also watch out for the word "strudy" by anyone who's trying to set you up on a blind date.
I agree Tulsy. I've experienced bullying, particularly at work, because I always try make healthier choices with my food. Its always overweight women that do it. And when it comes to this type of bullying, it's not so much overt, and more passive aggressive comments
When i read comments like this it really makes me glad i am a guy and realize how tough it is for women. I dont know how you guys do it. Get criticized for being to skinny or too curvy etc...and a lot of the time its by other women.
I was utterly unaware that this phrase was used in the context of men preferring voluptuous women over thin women.
My understanding has always been that the phrase is used in the context of that chesnut we discuss referring to alpha and beta traits. Men go after and get what they want, dogs (lesser men) get the leftovers.
I have tried over the years to be attracted to thin, flat-chested women but it has not happened. They do not need to be overweight but thin and boney does nothing for me. Physical aside, confidence is the big winner. A woman that does not fret about being rail thin and being dolled up and is just comfortable in her own skin is hot.
Hey, DOF, I hope you know I wasn't trying to attack you or anything like that by using your quote… it genuinely was something that sparked my curiosity.
Of course, that phrase could have been made up by fat chicks to make themselves feel better...sort of like guys who tell themselves that women aren't that visual...
However, women do not assign physical attraction anywhere near the importance that men do. It counts, but not as much. Access to resources and high status count considerably more for women. Several studies confirm this. And you can just take a look around at the people who get to choose whomever they like as partners.
I look at women who eat meat and drink alcohol/soda everyday and unless they burn off those calories exercising it makes them bulkier than what I find pleasing. Posted via Mobile Device
I prefer "full figured" always have, but I have dated all shapes and sizes. Must agree with others who have said confidence is a big turn on, no matter the shape or size.
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