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Old 12-09-2010, 02:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Then once he bores you to tears and you can't stand the idea of having sex with him, he'll just follow you around like a puppy hoping you'll scratch behind his ear. He'll even keep coming back wagging his tail when you kick him. It's cute.
OK - If I would have said a VERY HORNY "good" guy, I bet I would have not gotten this response. I paused before I typed "nice" cause I figured you all would jump on this word & trample the meaning I intended. I did not exactly mean NICE in the way we all perceive it here in the Men's Clubhouse.

I guess there is rules about this 4 letter word here & I best keep it in context -only use "nice" to = passive, boring & pathetic.

OK - better for me to say ---- a Good -sweet but very HORNY Guy - this beats the Bad Boy type anyday. That is my personal opinion.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:12 PM   #32 (permalink)
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That's a good clarification. I never liked having to reclassify myself as NOT a nice guy. Because generally speaking I am proud to be caring, affectionate, and empathic. However a "good guy" can have those qualities without the nice guy conotation! So I can be a good guy, and still have self respect!

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OK - If I would have said a VERY HORNY "good" guy, I bet I would have not gotten this response. I paused before I typed "nice" cause I figured you all would jump on this word & trample the meaning I intended. I did not exactly mean NICE in the way we all perceive it here in the Men's Clubhouse.

I guess there is rules about this 4 letter word here & I best keep it in context -only use "nice" to = passive, boring & pathetic.

OK - better for me to say ---- a Good -sweet but very HORNY Guy - this beats the Bad Boy type anyday. That is my personal opinion.
I was just funnin'.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:22 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I was just funnin'.
I thought you might be but as you can see, others take this 4 letter word very seriously, just like Eagleclaws post having to stop & reclassify himself to not be associated with the term "nice".

Kinda crazy how a few men's books have put an assult on the word "NICE".

Need a Sticky to enlighten all who enter here the meaning of the word "NICE" -- fake, passive, boring, pathetic, manipulative, etc.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:31 PM   #35 (permalink)
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What makes it more difficult is that your run of the mill 'Nice Guy' is going to flatly reject those connotations.

It's odd. The Nice Guy doesn't want to be a 'Bad Boy' yet when it comes down to it, you know exactly what you are getting with the Bad Boy. The Nice Guy isn't nearly as emotionally honest with himself or his partner.

I don't miss that guy.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:35 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I was kinda jesting too, but your right - I am trying to avoid classifying myself as a nice guy now.
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Awww come on, isn't that the man's fault because he doesn't want to face the possibility of loss and is willing to kiss bum to avoid it? I've seen this reversed too. I've seen women kiss a man's bum and do everything at his whim while he treats her like poo. I guess my point is that each person in the relationship has to retain respect for themselves. There have been times in my relationship where I've lost it and found myself behaving in ways I never thought possible until I realized I wasn't making myself happy or was helping make myself miserable and took my self respect back.
It's not the same. Women find vulnerability in men a turn off but men aren't turned off by vulnerability in women. I for one love a vulnerable woman. Preferably a drunk one with low self-esteem.
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It's not the same. Women find vulnerability in men a turn off but men aren't turned off by vulnerability in women. I for one love a vulnerable woman. Preferably a drunk one with low self-esteem.
I get your point and see that it's true women can be more vulnerable with men and still be considered attractive. Can you keep the woman drunk indefinitely? Otherwise, you might wake up to some major problems.
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It's not the same. Women find vulnerability in men a turn off but men aren't turned off by vulnerability in women. I for one love a vulnerable woman. Preferably a drunk one with low self-esteem.
Drunk men work real well too - I'm the most beautiful, intelligent, loving and desirable wife when my hubby is drunk - sometimes wish he was drunk all the time.
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Can you keep the woman drunk indefinitely? Otherwise, you might wake up to some major problems.
See, I'm not a 'nice' guy, my plan would be to be long gone before she sobers up.

Interesting article on the alpha/beta thing:

Sexual selection: Hunkier than thou | The Economist
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See, I'm not a 'nice' guy, my plan would be to be long gone before she sobers up.

Interesting article on the alpha/beta thing:

Sexual selection: Hunkier than thou | The Economist
You're giving reasons why women should stay away from those that are not nice guys, no?

Besides, your behavior can still have consequences for yourself regardless of how quick you leave...pregnancy, disease, etc.
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Joking aside it is a cold moment for every man when he realizes (if he ever does) that showing weakness, showing vulnerability will eventually destroy his marriage.

Unconditional love comes from your mommy, for your wife you have to be strong and to do that you have to hold something of yourself back, sad but true.

No doubt a lot of women would say that this is not true or is exaggerated, but they would be lying to themselves.
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Wow. I had no idea. I'm telling you, I have NO tolerance for the knuckle-dragging neanderthal anymore. Give me a nice guy any day. And yes, you can call him nice. Damn!, my SO is good. He manages to pull it all off seemingly effortlessly, and he's definitely a nice guy. To the OP..YESYESYES, nice guys do finish, and not always last!!!! I am the one finishing last, b/c I'm not going to let my "good" guy get away from me. No tennis coach, personal trainer, or whomever you thought might be hiding in a closet for me to ravage b/c I'm "bored". So-called "nice" guys can be real tigers when they need to be.
You just haven't found the woman who can fully appreciate one. Give them time, they'll come around when they're sick and tired of the "bad boy" types. It takes awhile, and a few lessons learned. I just had to get smart.
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Give them time, they'll come around when they're sick and tired of the "bad boy" types. It takes awhile, and a few lessons learned.

I'm not sure how appealing to very many men is the advice of saying just wait until a woman is older and has had her fill of many "bad boys".

Sloppy seconds is not much a consolation prize, if anything.
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