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Old 05-01-2011, 12:01 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Bravo, DB, you've taken action! I'm not saying to be cold hearted, but now she sees that you are serious, and that she will have to make a decision. Her "floor-looking" days are over.

Yes, the kids will suffer, there will be collateral damage. True, she may very well try to turn the kids and all family members against you, but they will find out the truth eventually, they will know the real story.

My only concern is that if she does come back, and there is a good chance that she won't (she may very well have the audacity to go looking for comfort from the OM), if she does, will you welcome her back with open arms? Or will you tell her that certain conditions must be met. The time for unconditional love has long since past, it actually passed when you both said "I Do".
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:49 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Unless OM is outright lying again to OMW he wants go fix M. Well guess who walked in 15 min ago.
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:56 PM   #93 (permalink)
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That was a couple of hours ago now. Is she still there?
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:10 PM   #94 (permalink)
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She just stopped back around. 140 EST. Son overheard our discussion, he's crying she's talking to him I am in ear shot and back and forth, with the other kids.
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She just stopped back around. 140 EST. Son overheard our discussion, he's crying she's talking to him I am in ear shot and back and forth, with the other kids.
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Went back in he didn't want to talk. This may have had the most profound affect on her because she keeps swearing the kids will be fine.
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Bravo, DB, you've taken action! I'm not saying to be cold hearted, but now she sees that you are serious, and that she will have to make a decision. Her "floor-looking" days are over.

Yes, the kids will suffer, there will be collateral damage. True, she may very well try to turn the kids and all family members against you, but they will find out the truth eventually, they will know the real story.

My only concern is that if she does come back, and there is a good chance that she won't (she may very well have the audacity to go looking for comfort from the OM), if she does, will you welcome her back with open arms? Or will you tell her that certain conditions must be met. The time for unconditional love has long since past, it actually passed when you both said "I Do".
Unconditional Love is fine.

Unconditional Relationship Stability = suicidal
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Went back in he didn't want to talk. This may have had the most profound affect on her because she keeps swearing the kids will be fine.
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Stay in there disbelief. Those kids need your stability.

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Gotcha powerbane, that was just an observation of her reaction Conrad. I don't worry about her anymore. I detatched that part.
sons ok he didn't actually hear much he knows he can talk to us I will remaiin stable. There is no other option!
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Gone yet? Was this one of the younger kids or the oldest? Ask her what she said to him.

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Well there's no guarantee, sis wont take my calls and will defend her anyway. OM was at home confirmed by OMW.
She apologized for not calling says she was throwing up, believable for her 1 wrong mix and she's done. Doesn't change the effect it had on me. I explained 2 years ago it would have been different but for all I know she was out with some other man.
She did talk to the kids. She works nights so it masks how much she is abnormaly gone. She works tonight and gets home after they get on the bus.

Well I had to do something right?
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Just want to help you see the little pitfalls you are used to covering up for. I assume she was at her sisters' house, throwing up? Then a REAL wife would have said 'Sis, H will be worried I didn't come home. Will you call him and let him know I'm ok?'

But she didn't.
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Did she leave?
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:17 PM   #104 (permalink)
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"Look around, tell me what you see
What's happening to you and me,
God grant me the serenity...
To remember who I am."

"Well, you've given up your sanity,
For your pride and your vanity,
Turn your back on humanity...
And you don't give a damn."

From "Games People Play", by Joe South, 1969.

Look it up on Youtube, I think it's relevant here, and for TAM as well.
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Just want to help you see the little pitfalls you are used to covering up for. I assume she was at her sisters' house, throwing up? Then a REAL wife would have said 'Sis, H will be worried I didn't come home. Will you call him and let him know I'm ok?'

But she didn't.
And thats was what pushed me over whatever edge I was on. Knowing all well she could have called texted or her sister could have. It was enough at 330 in the morning when my youngest wke me up to keep me up and start my day by packing her stuff. Still "fogged in I think"

She did apologize several times for not calling and i said thank you for that (I have manners) But i said do you not get it you don't understand what that does to me. You want trust??????????
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